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Oh, noes!

Well DU has become quite the Obama bash fest….

what the hell happened to DU, seems to have merged with freerepublic.

Only one breaks the chorus of approval

24. I know

Having people criticize the president on here for accepting republican narratives absolutely makes this message-board the equivalent of an insane bigoted far-right message board. 

Its like they say, if you criticize a democrat from the left that means you are a secret republican operative.   Permalink

The loyalty train  is chugging along however

***Check in if you’re proud of President Obama and his SOTU tonight***

Not 100% agreement from me, but very good.

William Pitt is not aboard

Is this as bad as I think it is?

I have been known on more than one occasion to defend the President even when he didn’t necessarily deserve it. I’ve also kicked him in the ass more than once.

This is an excellent Republican speech. There were a few belly-rubs – new energy policy, and oh we love the children – but he has been kissing GOP ass from beginning to end.

Please tell me I’m just an insane person. Been writing all day, maybe I’m addled.

But Jesus God…what is this crap?

Best Republican speech I’ve ever heard.

Total poop grenade.

Shit everywhere.

Ugh.

answering to a cheerleader saying Obama is doing right

10. He hasn’t lit the podium on fire or thrown up or anything
but I wouldn’t call this “doing great.”  Permalink

There were plenty of articles, material for this one in 2008 too, but they ignored it

Time Magazine Cover of Obama: Why Obama Hearts Reagan



Some excerpts from the article

Since the November elections, Obama has brought corporate executives into the White House, reached out to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and made compromise his new watchword. He signed a surprise $858 billion tax cut that would have made Reagan weep with joy and huddled with Reagan’s former White House chief of staff Ken Duberstein for lessons learned when the Gipper governed amid economic troubles.Over the Christmas break, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs tweeted that Obama was reading a Reagan biography, and just to confirm the bond, Obama recently wrote an homage to Reagan for USA Today. “Reagan recognized the American people’s hunger for accountability and change,” Obama wrote, conferring on Reagan two of his most cherished political slogans.

Of course, the defense team is ready this time as well

7. The full article is pretty interesting. OP’s excerpts are kind of misleading.
It isn’t about how “Obama is just like Reagan”. Nor is it that “Obama Admires Reagan’s Policies” which he doesn’t. It has more to do with using Reagan’s style to counter R meme that “government is the problem”  Permalink

and one of the cheerleaders nails it

9. We knew this since the primaries. Did you vote for Obama? n/t   Permalink

Another subversive idea

How to fix Social Security in one graph



Here’s an interesting view on civl rights, and very likely the DUdie

Obama administration demands Dan Choi pay $2500 for DADT discharge

To which cheerleading O responds

2. Shame on Choi – easier for him to be a perpetual victim, apparently
Grandstanding to try and embarass the administration that has done so much for this cause.  Permalink

A truth that shall become obvious  to many

Obama Single-Handedly Destroyed Social Security

…….
Good bye, Social Security. You did a great job for 75 years. Apparently, the President is ready to pull the plug on you, if not on Grandma herself.

Someone even offers a summary

25. SUMMARY

1. In the new Obama/Republican Tax Cut Compromise, a 2-year payroll tax holiday (which funds Social Security) is included which would decrease FICA contributions by on the employee side.
2. 60 members of the Senate are UNWILLING to raise taxes. Considering the recent elections, a majority of the House will not want to raise taxes either. It is also likely we will have a Republican president in 2 years, or Obama will continue to cave to Republican demands, so, same thing.
3. The Payroll tax Holiday will then likely become permanent because pols are unwilling to “increase taxes” (like the Bush Tax Cuts) which will double the Social Security shortfall.
4. We end up with a “starve the beast” scenario. This funding shortfall will cause a crisis in Social Security which will eventually lead to cuts across the board (severe means testing where only the really indigent will receive SS) therefore obliterating widespread support. Permalink

while the loyalists don’t believe it

16. Unrec for unsubstantiated rumors.

More hair on fire rhetoric from FDL. Permalink

and this was a clever sneaky one

Joe Scarborough unveils Republican campaign talking point

Obama is not serious about deficit reduction because he just added one trillion to the deficit by renewing the bush tax cuts for the wealthy.

As dissapointed as I am, I am more pissed at the Democrats in Congress.

Of course – anyone but the one.

One still thinks R have nothing on Obama

11. But they suck at 11-D chess

The chess master will beat them in the end. He has a secret recipe for winning: Preemptive surrender at every step. Permalink

and then sees the sequel

9. Coming soon: “Obama: We must cut Social Security to reduce the deficit”

“and I invite my Republican superiors to join me in this effort” Permalink

Loyalists are on the offensive

KUDOS to President Obama for pushing back on the unappreciative left. . .

The usual propaganda follows and ends with

GO AHEAD PRESIDENT OBAMA, I got your back!Permalink

Some quibble

6. that was sheer unadulterated awesomeness … although..

…. I wouldn’t call it “the left.” The puritanical, 99% is simply not good enough for me lot aren’t the whole left. There a tiny but loud few. Permalink

Others felt different

Obama seemed condescending when talking about left today?

1. SEEMED—SEEMED ??? HE WAS POSITIVELY INSOLENT Permalink

Some enjoyed it

60. The bashing of the purists was a thing of beauty. Permalink

Someone wants to change the title

4. Again

I think the missing word in your post was “again”.

He is really impressed with himself and very frustrated in people who don’t see just how brilliant he is. Permalink

And some made me sad – much as I shouldn’t feel sorry for them

7. That’s cuz we’re f#cking retarded. Remember.

I’m being sarcastic, I’m actually heartbroken. I have a sterling silver Obama logo necklace that I wore proudly until a few months ago. I’m so sad about how I feel. Permalink

some good (if too late)observations

14. In my eyes, the president has two tones: condescending and angry.

Rarely have I seen any alternative attitudes come through, except maybe timid. So his condescension today was no surprise. He is as snide as it gets. Permalink

Don’t you fucking yell at us, Mr President. And your podium

pounding has little effect anymore!

Reminding how Clinton handled identical situation ( as I hear “Obama is as bad as Clinton”)

How Clinton handled Republican blackmail – he used it to destroy Gingrich

This is exactly what happened when Gingrich and company tried to blackmail Clinton into all sorts of crazy shit, saying they’d shut down government if he didn’t give in. Clinton knew most Americans agreed with him, and he strode onto the TV and said “Those fuckers are trying to force me to do stuff that most Americans don’t want, and so they’re shutting down the government. I don’t want to shut down the government, but I’m not going to put up with blackmail.”

The Republicans were in flames in days, and Gingrich eventually got the boot. From Wikipedia:

The Republicans blamed Clinton for the shutdown, and Clinton blamed the Republicans. Public opinion favored the president; Clinton’s approval rating rose to the highest it had been since his election. The Republicans’ support was further diminished two days later when Gingrich made a widely-reported complaint about being snubbed by Clinton; Tom DeLay called it “the mistake of his life”.

DeLay writes in his book No Retreat, No Surrender:
“He told a room full of reporters that he forced the shutdown because Clinton had rudely made him and Bob Dole sit at the back of Air Force One… Newt had been careless to say such a thing, and now the whole moral tone of the shutdown had been lost. What had been a noble battle for fiscal sanity began to look like the tirade of a spoiled child. The revolution, I can tell you, was never the same.”
Gingrich’s complaint resulted in the perception that he was acting in a petty, egotistical manner, and Clinton defended the seating arrangement as a courtesy to Gingrich, the back of the plane being closer to his pickup car.<1> Later, the polls suggested that the event badly damaged Gingrich politically.

The shutdown also influenced the 1996 presidential election. Bob Dole, the Senate Majority Leader, was running for president in 1996. Because of his need to campaign, Dole wanted to solve the budget crisis in January 1996 despite the willingness of other Republicans to continue the shutdown unless their demands were met. It also has been cited as a role in Clinton’s successful re-election in 1996.

and some helpful advice

How to Remove Bumper Stickers

and someone notices the change in the place

Democratic Underground RETURNS to being truly “Underground,” I guess.

or rather the fact that O’s are now officially marginalized – which is kinda late

…well according to our President (for now), we should just shut up and take it. Because we progressives and liberals with our high-minded ideals are just too stupid to understand Obama’s “long game” strategy, we just need to trust our leader. We just need to fall into lockstep with the Democratic caucus. Sounds familiar, doesn’t it?

I’m a member of this group because I choose NOT to fall into lockstep.

I’m a member of the underground because I choose to fight for my ideals and common sense.

I will not apologize to this President, who has betrayed his party. I will not be anyone’s lap dog.

But it calls into discussion what they’ve done

1. The “U” in “DU” had been forgotten for a couple years..

now, with so many blinders being ripped off in all directions, all at once, it seems that “second letter” is reasserting itself… Permalink

and a funny comment

75. Oh please!

Obama couldn’t find The Left with a compass and G.P.S.! Permalink

More sophistry from the authoritarian loyalists

Hmmm. Some of the same people who insist that it is their right/duty to loudly criticize President

when they disagree with him – and chafe at being told that they should be keep their criticisms to themselves – are now absolutely FURIOUS that the President had the temerity to criticize THEM.

Sorry, but we can’t have it both ways.

Took a while – they were high-fiving each other for the perfect argument, but finally someone nailed it

54. Who works for whom, here? It’s not the electorate’s job to please the President. Permalink

Turning on their pundits

Rachel Maddow is proving just how myopic the Parlor Talking Purists really are

with clever arguments like these (and this is a DUdie candidate)

12. So Obama as President can overrule what Congress and Senate do? Permalink

which mercifully get responded

44. Yeah, it’s called a veto. Permalink

and the rude awakening keeps on going

What ever happens, we are fucked. We’ve been used

and abused and there is nothing left.

One after the other, they wake up

2. I’m just mad at myself for not seeing this coming.

I was 100% snowed. 2 years ago, I never thought we’d be here. Never. 6 months ago I woke the fuck up and stopped making excuses and rationalizations. It’s gone downhill from there.

But at least my eyes are wide open now. Some are still in dreamland. It’s a blue pill red pill situation Permalink

I am mad at you too for not seeing this coming. And for attacking me and the rest who told you it was coming.

Another view on the “Unprecedented One”

I’m beginning to think Obama just isn’t smart enough to be president

Others think

3. He’s not stupid – rather he is complicit. nt Permalink

and then there’s Solomon

8. i think that you can argue both sides…that he’s being taken advantage of, and that he’s
the one taking advantage…and neither reflect nicely b/c in the first case he’s a not-so swift pol. in the second case, he’s not on our side and therefore less than trustworthy. neither of these scenarios are flattering. Permalink

and some put disappointment in verse

When we elected Obama, we thought

When we elected Obama, we thought

We elected a Thurgood Marshall,
a lion of the law,
one of the great legal minds.

We thought we elected a Martin Luther King
a guardian of rights
a courageous, peaceful warrior.

What we got was a Clarence Thomas,
Parroting the RIGHT opinions,
Deferential to conservative bluster.

So we now find ourselves ill served
Hoping that his promise of change
Means that he will change his ways.

And the DUdie

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goes to another clueless effort to distract

** So, Who wants to see Obama light a Christmas tree! **

This concludes today’s edition. See you on Tuesday!

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The Florida 3 way senate election makes for strange statements

When Rubio wins on Tuesday,

will those who voted for Meek instead of Christ be happy with their votes? There is a time to be idealistic and there is a time to be pragmatic. Now is the time to be pragmatic and vote for Crist.

and elicits this response

5. Never thought I’d see the day when Democrats who voted for the Democratic candidate would get bashed

on DemocraticUnderground. Permalink

That only shows how very lost you are, buddy. A much more popular discussion on the same theme

DUers no longer have the right to demand party loyalty.

Not after demanding Meek drop out of the FL senate race to increase support for Crist. Endorsing and pushing a recent former Republican over the Dem (who is losing in part *because* FL Democrats refuse to support him, thus ensuring an “unelectable” feedback loop) and then demanding party loyalty is the height of hypocrisy.

with an interesting agreement

2. K&R because I’m in Arizona where the Democratic party couldn’t even find

candidates for a lot of offices. Hypocrisy is its own fertilizer. Permalink

and a predictable disagreement invoking the WWOD rule

10. What about Obama advocating a vote for an independent instead of a Dem?

I guess he’s broken DU rules, too! Permalink

PUMAs may have disbanded, but not in the minds of these people. First response to this

Obama primary challenge? Nearly half of Dems want 2012 fight.

is

1. Really who is pushing that drivel……PUMAS

and showing how clueless

2. Bingo

damn, let it go people…imagine if the Gore faction had kept that up during Clintons eight years.

A bit hard to imagine, seing as Gore never ran against Clinton, let alone have the primaries stolen And here’s Obama’s soul mate in a log rant against the voters. Some highlights:

67. I’m really not a voter worshiper. ….I really haven’t seen a president or candidate in my lifetime who could compare with Obama. Therefore, I have no trouble at all in blaming the few Dem voters expressing “disenchantment” for their own problems. I think any Dem who grumbles about Obama should have the decency to name an alternative or shut up. That never happens, of course….. ……These folks are high maintenance. They don’t realize a very simple fact: You have to give a great deal of loyalty and trust to your team or you are useless to it. It’s hard to be angry with people who don’t understand this, though, because they are basically blind. They have no idea they are wrong. They should think about it.

Someone is trying to defend the Gawker story on O’Donnell

What’s the definition of misogynist?

O’Donnell portrays herself as “pure” and condemns sexual activity outside of marriage, including masturbation. That’s ALL this is about. No woman-hating going on. Simply O’Donnell-hating.

One person disagrees

i am not seeing sexual history with straight sex of single male running on family values

are you?

On the latest Obama heckling

Obama deals with protests in Connecticut

“Excuse me … excuse me,” an irritated looking Obama said before he could finally talk over the shouting. “We’re funding global AIDS (prevention) and the other side is not — so I don’t know why you find this a useful strategy.” As some protesters kept shouting — and presidential backers began changing pro-Obama slogans — Obama told his critics, “you guys have made your point, so let’s go … C’mon, guys.”

Most applaud Obama, and one who says was present is convinced they were R’s

I got a close look at these protesters, and they resembled Mormon missionaries much more than AIDS activists. Karl Rove and his ilk must have had a hand on this. Permalink

But there are also comments like these

5. It’s a shame, the President’s response. It’s also a shame the response many here have to the protest The President is hypocritical when he confronts situations like this. In calmer places he tells us, “Push me, make me do my job.” From the beginning he’s said that, he’s said it over and over again. Then when people do that, he gets irritated, tells them, “I’ve done lots of things, now shut up and go away! I’m talking here!” Everyone supports the STFU, saying, “Why don’t they wait until AFTER the election?”…… Permalink

and even Clinton comparisons

6. Clinton would usually tell you who to speak to about your concerns. I think Obama was disturbed by

the fact it was right before the election. His mind is in campaign mode, but I agree, he could have just said some of those things you said. It’s not easy to talk with people shouting, though. They could hold up signs and be respectful after a minute of chanting. Permalink

That’s probably what brought the operative with one post to say he was there and they were Rove’s guys (fo’ sure! That’s the ticket!) From Skinner, expectations for Election Day

We’ve got an election on Tuesday, and it might not go so well. Here’s what to expect on DU.

Besides expectations of increaed traffic and such there’s that loyalty thinghy

5. If you want the Democrats to lose, GO AWAY. I fully expect that there may be lots of finger-pointing and “I told you so” posts, and as much as I don’t like it I understand it is going to happen. That’s fine. But if anyone seems a little too gleeful that the Democrats lost and the Republicans won, we’re not going to cut you a great deal of slack. If you want to celebrate a Republican victory, take it to Free Republic. I think that’s everything. Fingers crossed, hoping for the best. GO DEMS!

I wonder how the glee is measured. I also wonder if Mineral Man will help direct traffic to his Alma Mater of 4 years.

Believing their own PR

Things Look good for Dems Tomorrow…Tim Kaine said just now…Chris Van Holland said Twice in Last

2 Days that We will HOLD THE House and Senate!

Both of them were very upbeat. Kaine on CNN and Van Holland on MSNBC today and yesterday on some show.

They are Insiders and Very Upbeat. I would think they know more than we do or the Press will Laugh at them for their calls after the election.

Spinning is prepared

Just to be clear, if Ds hang onto either house, we are calling it a victory.

Further explained

16. When I was a defense attorney…

…a verdict that came back with less liability than the prosecutor’s best offer was a victory. I think the Ds holding off the predicted R landslide will be a victory in reality. Permalink

and replied

19. Well, in your expert opinion as a defense attorney…

what would you call it when you practically sweep a party off the map, elect a hugely popular president with a historic mandate and give him both houses of Congress with the largest majorities in a generation… and then piss that all away in just two years? Permalink

Many more “victories” like that, asshats!

A good sum-up

I don’t like the choice between far right and center right

personally, I think we need a wider spectrum of political discourse.

Our democratic party had a super majority, and the best it could do is pass Bob Doles 1996 health care plan. We need more ideas….

and gets slapped over the head with Skinner’s stick

5. Organize for another party

Or in the words of some other famous person, If you want the Democrat to lose, GO AWAY.

and one that takes the DUdie

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blaming Code Pink

9. I don’t either but we can blame the Code Pinks and Medea Benjamins for this

Because of their shrill bullying tactics, they made the Democratic party move further right

hey, at least it’s not all the “lefties”.

Tuesday Howdy DUdie time!

Hope springs eternal

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Will the President do a better job without Rahm Emanuel ??

Of course the apologists spot the mistake

17. False premise…. the President has been doing an excellent job…

…not perfect, but excellent. Permalink

Not perfect???? All by his little self!

Piling on:

“I just feel like punching some hippies”

Having taken a swing through some of the self-described “progressive” blogs, the ones where the posters describe themselves as the “democratic wing of the Democratic Party,” I can say – they need to be punched. Hard…..

They love it, obviously.

Cheering for misogyny

Is Meg Whitman A Whore? A Whore? A WHORE?

Everyone agrees she should STFU

That was my thought

NutMeg might want to think twice about making a big deal of this–does she really want to call attention to the way she’s sold out to big money interests?

and some blame the Rs for all the sexism

8. O’Donnell: “I’m not a witch” Whitman: “I’m not a whore”

The GOP at their finest. Nice going ladies. Permalink

Logic

The base is leaving the Democrats

Yep, those ever reliable Democratic voting Independent voters have had it with the Democrats.

Why?

Because the Democrats are socialists who don’t enact socialistic policies.

harruuuumph!

and the upshot

2. Well, we’ve been told that we have

no power but if the Democrats lose it’s all our fault. Which is it?Permalink

and illogic

Should we really be shocked that the Dems are about to go down?

After all, many of the people here and on other so called liberal blogs have spent time and energy telling everyone how big of a disappointment Obama and the Dems are. If liberals see them as disappointments, should you really expect independents to vote for them?

I think some of you are about to get what you deserve. It’s just a shame that people who appreciate the job that Obama has done is about to get shafted too w/ a republican ran house and senate.

I say, it’s a shame that people who knew what a disaster Obama would be for the democrats got shafted with him – and the consequences anyway

Some get it

21. We Are Losing Because The Economy Sucks Not Because Of A Democratic Fifth Column

If McCain would have won the economy would still suck and it would have been the Republicans who got spanked. Let’s pray the economy improves by 2012.

Want to know how important a good economy is. Bill Clinton had a near seventy point approval rating at the peak of impeachment. Permalink

Some just watch

2. The circular firing squad isn’t scheduled until AFTER the election.

Do try to keep that in mind. Permalink

Some live it

52. I am already suffering

The HCR bill has resulted in my health insurance premium jumping
over 30%. It has never jumped that high ever in one year.

Lack of public option to compete with the private corporations has
done it for me. I am not voting for senator Murray in November. 52. I am already suffering

Result of the infights

I’m coming out… After years of posting here, I’m going to accept popular belief… I’m a troll.

…..I vote Democratic tickets. DON’T expect me to do it without holding my nose and complaining that my gay Daughter STILL cannot serve her country, just expect me to do it.

Try as you might, you will NEVER get me to STFU.

I thought that was what democracy was all about.

Facts get shot down

President Obama Throws Weight Behind Banks, Housing “Market” Over Borrowers

with stupid replies such as

1. And DU is against people trying to buy homes? Permalink

and

21. The Obama haters are out in force with the biggest stupid to date. Not all banks were rotten bastard Permalink

and again

Obama administration wants to work more closely with business leaders following midterm elections !

Lots of deleted comments but not this one

9. By your reasoning, Bush II was correct to listen only to those who voted for him. Permalink

But this one is the wowzer

Obama is taking the entire party on his skinny shoulders

It’s him against the GOP and their billions and billions of dollars. The rally today in Philadelphia made it very clear: He hardly mentioned the actual candidates names. He told these 18,500 people to go out and vote for HIM. And frankly, that is our only chance. And i’m going to do whatever i can to help this super courageous man.

with the others pouring it on

9. Skinny shoulders but he’s tough we’ve got his back (some of us!) nt Permalink

Dad is pulling the credit card:

Soros: I Can’t Stop a Republican ‘Avalanche’

Asked if the prospect of Republican control of one or both houses of Congress concerned him, he said: “It does, because I think they are pushing the wrong policies, but I’m not in a position to stop it. I don’t believe in standing in the way of an avalanche.”

Stupid comment

7. If DUers are not working their butts off why expect someone else to do it?

Permalink

Clever comment – from another thread

17. What a hoot!
The replies to this news are pretty much all negative. The thread title is unkind to Soros. None of the comments are in his support. That may or may not be right, but that’s the fact.

So instead of kicking this to the greatest page, where it will be seen by all and in that process hold Soros up for more derision, it gets unreced, keeping it hidden.

Seems to me that if one is unhappy with Soros, one would be inclined to rec this, not unrec it.

Oh well, that’s why they make chocolate and vanilla. Different strokes for different folks.

Someone doesn’t get what the big deal is with stopping the COLA increases on Social Security – not quite getting what COLA means

If I find out my income is remaing the same, why would I be frantic about cutting back spending?

One sane reaction

5. Now Dems are excusing everything.
Anything goes now. I am in shock. Permalink

And the DUdie

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goes to the “skinny shoulders”

Obama is taking the entire party on his skinny shoulders

It’s him against the GOP and their billions and billions of dollars. The rally today in Philadelphia made it very clear: He hardly mentioned the actual candidates names. He told these 18,500 people to go out and vote for HIM. And frankly, that is our only chance. And i’m going to do whatever i can to help this super courageous man.

with the others pouring it on

9. Skinny shoulders but he’s tough we’ve got his back (some of us!) nt Permalink

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Welcome to the Friday edition of the DU-dies:

Poor White House! Frustrations never end!

White House frustrated with gay bloggers

and some priceless replies

1. I’ll donate $25 to DU if you go one week without finding new, obscure ways to bash Obama

and to it

9. I’ll donate $25 to DU if you start caring about equal rights…

..as much as you care about protecting a politician.

B0bots draw yet another line in the sand

If the Democrats dare to make ONE cut to social security

The party will be dead to me and it should be that way to ever self respecting liberal, leftist and/or democrat.

If these corporate wall street pocket lined hacks screw with it, I will HOPE they lose a majority for eons to come. I will not only hope they are never entrusted with the reigns of power EVER again. I will work MY ASS off to see to it. Because, at that point, truly, what would be the difference between a DEM and Repugnican?

There will be NOTHING, that will make me be a member of the Democratic Party again. NOTHING.

And call me a hater, call me a repugnican, call me a liar, call me a purist, call me the fuck whatever.

This commission on SS is looking for cuts. It seems we can’t even get the head of the DCCC to make a pledge to no cuts in SS. JESUS H FUCKIN CHRIST!

And on the subject, please note the comments of Radical Activist

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19. I suspect party leaders know how unpopular it would be.
Even Alan Simpson repeatedly says they aren’t cutting it.

But as long as we’re dealing in speculation… If Pujols leaves the Cardinals he’s dead to me!!!

They are especially relevant in light of this revelation from Old Elm Tree

DU’s Radical Activist’s father is exec of Cat Food Commission

or as they call him Mr Meow Mix

The son actually gave us notice in his profile too

Hobby: Confusing others

Tom Tomorrow creates a new icon for B0botland

Tom Tomorrow: Afghanistan-We must stay the course-Only a frivolous nincompoop could disagree.

6. The minute I saw that toon, I knew

DU had a new icon.

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7. Me Three! LOL!

I suspect we will have some relevant posts by a Loco on the new mascot.

and a very naughty comment

3. i’ll take tom tomorrow over obama any day of the week.

With Obama bragging he won’t privatize Social Security, here’s a poll

What are your “acceptable” cuts to Social Security?

and here’s a tongue in cheek comment that will be lost on some

14. I trust Obama to make the right decision. If he wants to reduce social security payments,

raise the retirement age, transform public schools by creating private charters, replace our troops in Iraq with private contractors, expand our much needed military adventures in Afghanistan, keep the Pakistani terrorists in line with our impressive predator drones, and keep the teachers unions in line–(there needs to be a balance of power after all!!!) I’m sure there’s a lot less torture at Bagram Airfield Theatre now that Obama’s in charge. For all we know, he probably shut it down. He has very good judgement, you know. I think Gitmo is still open. But it is much more humane now. I hear they have Popcorn Thursdays and Twister Mondays. (How bad can it be?)

I don’t get all these people who are so angry with Obama for doing what needs to be done. If we don’t take the Republicans positions, the Republicans will take the Republicans positions and then we’ll never get important bills like the Healthcare Private Insurance Mandate through congress.

I like Obama’s puppy. And he is our most handsome president ever. If he has to attack social security, I, for one, am prepared to suffer.

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On the many “mishun accomplished” in Iraq threads, one cheerleadr gets cute

Don’t let me down, DUers–give me a reason to feel shitty about the troops leaving Iraq

One of course needs to go to other discussions for that

by what rationale are the remaining troops not ‘combat’ troops?

Do they still have guns and hummers and shit?

and even more so

1000 New Combat Troops About to Head to Iraq from Ft. Hood

The 3rd ACR is a COMBAT REGIMENT. They have the one of the highest number of casualties of any division. They also have one of the highest rates of traumatic brain injury, military sexual trauma, and PTSD.

The Occupation of Iraq is NOT over. The troops being sent are COMBAT troops. It sickens me to see people repeating propaganda that “combat operations are ending” and “the last combat troops are leaving Iraq.” It’s unfair to the Iraqi people, to the US troops, and to the American public. It’s cynical and despicable politicking.

http://www.forthoodsentinel.com/story.php?id=2259

http://www.kdhnews.com/news/story.aspx?s=36284

Dated July 8th 2010:

http://www.hood.army.mil/3d_acr/Regiment/DeploymentInfo…

And in  the big propaganda over Obama belately executing Bush’s plan for Iraq, someone notices

It appears that the government gave the withdrawal story to NBC (MSNBC).

CNN isn’t covering it. It’s also pretty clear that MSNBC knew this was coming. They have all their star personalities covering it including Maddow in Iraq. Do you consider it ethical for the government to give access to one network and not others? Is it the cost of balancing access with security? What do you think? Saying “Bush gave it to Fox” is not an answer.

Amongst the dumbest comments

1. MSNBC and NBC are the only networks that gave a damn about Iraq for years

I think they deserve it for that reason alone.

and

6. patch up relations with the professional left ?

And oh, noes, KO messed up the message apparently

Keith just reported that the current combat operation officially continues until August 31st.

and to the protesting cheerleaders, one other confirms

5. No-he said, “OFFICIALLY, ‘Operation Iraqi Freedom’ continues ’til September 1st, but for all intents

and purposes, this part is as closed as the gate behind that last vehicle is closed as of this hour.”

May I remind everyone, W negotiated this to end on May 31.Uh-oh, someone actually mentions this

So, if Obama gets the credit for “ending the war in Iraq”…

does that mean that he will also get the blame when Iraq remains unstable, as it most likely will?

By accepting credit for Bush’s withdrawal plan, we’re just giving the right-wing ammo for the inevitable accusations that the troops were pulled out too soon.

This of course is debated so more facts brought up

Wrong.

U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement:

“On December 14, 2008, U.S. President George W. Bush signed the security pact with Iraq.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%93Iraq_Status_o…

Also, the koolaid brigade is now sticking it to the Deniacs

Oooops. Big progressive hero Howard Dean Comes Out AGAINST Cordoba House

And now, it’s Obama’s cheerleaders that want the mosque moved, to protect their beloved

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Mosque-gate is the greatest threat to Obama since Wright-gate.

……Again, a well-recieved speech. But the only thing that will end this — and I think this is what will happen, perhaps sooner rather than later — a COMPROMISE will be found — Obama, Bloomberg, etc. will find some NYC real estate tycoon with a nice open lot ready for building who will be prevailed upon to exchange it for the “Park51” property, then Obama will pick up the phone to the Park51/Cordoba House leadership and use the schmoozing power of the Presidency to convince them to make the exchange.

This is what will happen. Sooner, we should hope, rather than later. If not, God help us in the midterms.

Oh, and let it not be said B0botland is misogynist! The anniversary of the women’s right to vote is duly noted. In a thread titled

Hey Ladies

Only one B0bot notes

28. I’d prefer, “Hey women”

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and gets Shill Pitt to apologize

6. My sincerest apologies
Too late to edit.

I apologize.

Indeed. Hey women would have taken care of it all that went on in Bobotland

This was posted in September 2008 and interestingly enough it was also adressed to “Ladies”

Ladies! Have I got an item for you!
The Palin 2008 voting booth.
Never let your vagina be silenced again!
Order now while supplies last.
Send 6 equal payments of $99.99 to:
My hoohoo, my vote!
1234 dingdong lane
Guiyang, China 550000
Let your crotch be heard!
Vote now and vote often!
:patriot:

And the DUdie

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goes to this mind boggling post that NOW puts PUMA on the left side of the spectrum (speaking of course, on the benefit of the right)

59. Personally, I think when Gibbs said “Professional Left” what he

meant was “PUMA’s”. And there are plenty of PUMA websites.

That woodchuck shoo is confusing poor B0bots!.

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