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Of course the actual news in this AP piece is Dean declaring he won’t challenge Obama in the primary.

While he has frequently criticized the president, Dean announced through a spokeswoman earlier this month that he would not mount a primary challenge against Obama in 2012.

On the title subject he is quoted as saying

“clearly upset members of his base” on issues including tax cuts and allowing gays to serve openly in the military. Obama stands to lose both the presidency and his party’s credibility if he doesn’t reverse course before 2012, Dean said.

“You take care of the people who sent you to the office,” he said in an interview. “There are hundreds of thousands of people under 30 who slept on floors for two years to make sure Barack got elected. You can’t turn your back on those people because if you do, it’s going to be hard to find any friends.”

Funny that he doesn’t even mention Social Security or the pay freeze.

Dean (who was Obama 1.0) has still retained the glow of sainthood among his naive followers, because, unlike Obama he didn’t have time for betrayal.

Of course, people who paid attention, heard him declare “of course I’ll move to the center in the general elections”. Not even in office. In the general elections – and he was declaring this in the primaries, drunk with the feeling that he was selected by the establishment.

As to his advice to Obama, it surely looks good on paper, if not for the fact that it comes a bit late.

To use W’s immortal words: Fool me once, I’ll never get fooled again.

And neither will many of the Os who slept on the floors (and accused me of racism)

Hear them now

Hear, hear!
The 2012 primaries will be Obama’s last days in the public spotlight. After that he’ll have a nice guaranteed corporate job waiting for him –after all he’s done for the right wingers he will definitely never want for money the rest of his life. Too bad the rest of us Americans can’t say that. Permalink


7. You are right

That window is closed. Time to move on. Just when I think…. “Maybe tommorrow (sic) I will wake up and Obama will be a completely different leader”, he does something else that shows that he just doesn’t get it.

Technically that is not true, really. Two years ago he gave an interview to Rolling Stone where he pretty much predicted exactly what happened. The right will say no to everything and say “Look, he accomplished nothing”!”. So I guess we can not even say that it took him by surprise.

So sad. Immeasurable opportunity costs here. Permalink

and somewhere in the CDS blossoming on the thread for some reason someone says

29. Bill ran as a liberal? That’s news to me and I worked on his campaign.

He ran as a Democrat. Big and little D/d. Back then it meant something. It suggested a set of core values re: policy and positions.

Obama ran as a “personality”. Not a liberal, not a progressive, not even as a Democrat. Just him. That is what we got. Permalink

So, on the bright side, they finally figured Obama up. There was no multi-dimensional chess after all. On the other hand, they are still dumb as dirt and up for grabs to the next charlatan the establishment will waive in front of them. After Jeb is done. One loyalist predicts it

31. Oh, what you think is the “base” will come flying back

It’s just a question of when they realize it. Nader voters similarly said they were not going to vote for Democrats, until they had a nice little meeting of the minds with reality. 4 years later, they flocked to the polls to vote for pro-war Kerry.

The actual base (as distinguished from what you think is “the base”) is solidly behind him. (86% approval among liberal Democrats.) Permalink

This is must see show on PBS


It was made at the time the first attempt of including anti-abortion  provisions in  in the HCR was defeated in the Senate.

The Planned Parenthood stooge was brimming with confidence and enthusiasm at te number of women they bamboozled again (after having sold them out in 2008).

Howard Dean is justifying fielding pro-life candidates in 2006 – his famous 50 states strategy did this to us.

“Those candidates are so much better on all the other issues”

(n other words, who cares about women’s rights – we get our numbers)

No mention is made of Tim  Kaine – the present anti-choice DNC chairman – and who appointed him.

Bart Stupak is announcing surprised women: “We (pro-life Democrats) have always been there. That, and his readiness to vote for a bill that kills Roe vs Wade.

Interestingly, he resents being called “anti-abortion” “I am pro-life”. Make sure you always use that, or better yet – “anti-choice”.

Watch it.  Get angry.

And remember why all women had to jump on Palin and vote for Obama.

The BO spokesperson told Todd that they would use any means necessary to beat Hillary and if women were offended, they would come back to the party during the GE because their plan was to “play the Roe v. Wade card.”

How Planned Parenthood endorsed Obama over Hillary. How Howard Dean stole votes from Hillary and gave them to Obama.

Oh, and vote in the poll as well.


This has proven to be the last straw for B0bot and Dean fan #1 as well

I wish I had not watched NOW tonight on PBS. It increased my disappointment…
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with our party leaders. I should have known better than to expect any Democratic leader to say of course women should make their own health care decisions. Howard Dean used to say things like that, but tonight he did not.

Tonight hearing Howard Dean on PBS saying that recruiting those to run who are against abortion is okay as long as they are with us on other issues….was a huge disappointment.

It’s good to know there’s a limit. Of course, most comments attack her for “ideological purity. But that one made my day:

Purity? Go suck on some purity.

Wanna end abortion, deballing would work. How does that sound? Something like forced motherhood?


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Until now, we were thrown generic guilt trips: you don’t want the uninsured to die, do you?

But now, we go back to campaign time propaganda.

For disclosure: I was never a Deaniac and I am not sentimental in the least about what is going on.

I think Dean is right asking to “Kill the Bill” and I was expecting attacks on him from the Obama media.

Like this ingenious sophistry from Ambinder

Does Obama Hate Liberals?

Does President Obama have contempt for liberals? No. The administration is virtually infested with liberals. And they’re not inclined to be self-hating.

which calls Dean irrelevant

Howard Dean has become the talisman for a bundle of anxieties (the bank bailouts, Afghanistan surging, card check, state secrets, gay rights, civil liberties) — this was HIS party before it was Obama’s, remember — but now, figures like Andy Stern, the White House’s most powerful labor ally, are voicing doubts about Obama’s willingness to fight for progressive causes.

But now there are racism insinuations  in this article.

From the second paragraph we are sent back to the 2004 primaries Republican arguments about “elitist democrats”

The 2004 presidential campaign that propelled Dean to national prominence was fueled predominantly by “wine track” Democratic activists-generally college-educated white liberals.

Soon, we find out that

Minorities don’t seem to have much doubt about their investment in this debate.

So, Howard Dean and followers, do you want black people to die? Do ya? Why else would you make trouble for the first black President, huh?

In view of what Dean did in the last elections,

I don’t even know whether to laugh or cry about this. But there’s one word that covers all my contradictory feelings:

As for the irony of bringing up Dean’s elitism…..

Ironic too – the “Creative class” that was so far ruling – seems to be now just a bunch of clueless bigots?

This is good – I think the saying “protect me from friends, I can deal with the enemies” applies.

With Sanjay Gupta’s withdrawal (this is starting to resemble W’s “war tzar” search), Dean’s little fans are at it again.

Within hours — maybe even minutes — of Gupta’s withdrawal, liberal bloggers threw out the possibility of Dean as the nation’s top doc. After all, he acknowledged this week that he really would have liked the Health and Human Services job. And he’s a physician to boot.

The story made its way to CNN Friday, elevating the idea beyond Internet chatter.

“Elevating”  the idea? Funny, that. Anyway, CNN says he’d take it

One Democratic strategist close to Dean made clear the former DNC chair would take the position if it is offered. “He’ll do whatever the President would like him to do,” said the strategist. “He’s certainly well-suited and well-qualified for that job. It would certainly shut up a lot of Dean supporters.”

Sure enough, now Dean has to pretend yet again that he doesn’t want it

Indeed, Dean associates were quick to bat the idea down, saying he has not been contacted. When the idea of surgeon general was floated a while ago, he tried to politely make it clear that he wasn’t interested, according to a person close to Dean.

Also, Politico makes no bones that Emanuel is the absolute barrier

It’s a matchup that is difficult for political insiders to fathom. Dean had very open disagreements with White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel over electoral strategies when Dean headed the Democratic National Committee and Emanuel led the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.

I mean, it’s not like Obama would feel he needs to show any love to said bloggers (David Sirota will have to live with the memory of that phone call, last year)

Here’s a sample of the hopeful masses

Dean under consideration! Bones to the base! Man your barricades! Discuss. Fanfare. Disbelief. Small bones, big bones, not gonna happen bones?

And another, full of hope for change

4. If he does I hope he does away with the dumb ass uniform they wear.

yeah, something in red and gold would do the trick They wear an uniform???? You mean, like a General? Are there hats?

Another one for my Schadenfreude list

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This one is an addition to my Schadenfreude list – and I have to give it the full original title

Lei-off: Obama snubs Dean

Deanies are up in arms:

The conspicuous absence of Howard Dean from Thursday’s press conference announcing Tim Kaine’s appointment as Democratic National Committee chair was no accident, according to Dean loyalists.

Which actually reminds me of a funny thing during the primary – a reason to oppose “evil Hillary”:

“She would get rid of Dean”

Indeed, Obama said he’d keep him, didn’t he? Whatever happened to that?

Although Barack Obama’s recent decision to keep Howard Dean as the DNC chair was minor news at best, I think it’s much more important than the media has made it seem.  I think the foreshadowing is undeniable; this will tell us a lot about what a potential Obama presidency would be like.  Here are some things that jump out at me: Obama did not install one of his cronies, which would be a huge change over past Presidencies.

Oh, well, that was way back in June. Today we have:

Rather, they say, it was a reflection of the lack of respect accorded to the outgoing party chairman by the Obama team.

Indeed, when President-elect Barack Obama introduced Kaine at party headquarters Thursday afternoon, Dean was 7,023 miles and seven time zones away, closer to French Polynesia than Washington, doing party grunt work in American Samoa.

His allies aren’t happy about it.

That’s OK, I have been unhappy about his allies for years now. So let’s savor some more:

“If he had been asked to go to that event, he would have been there,” Jim Dean, the chairman’s brother, noted twice in an interview.

Dean’s reward for the party recapturing the White House, House, Senate, and taking control of seven governor’s mansions and eight state legislatures on his watch?

So far, nothing.

And then, there’s this delicious quote

“If we can forgive Joe Lieberman for actively campaigning against Obama, this seems crazy to me. And Hillary Clinton did ok and lots of her people are getting plum assignments,” noted the ally. “I really think he has rehabilitated himself. He showed he can be team player. It just seems so odd and I don’t know what the reasons are.”

A fourth Dean admirer found some gallows humor in the doctor’s disappearing act: “He said he wanted to be in the cabinet,” joked this source. “So they stuffed him in the cabinet and locked the door.”

Indeed, there must be no joy in Mudville today – and I may even take a trip later.

And while DFA sends now letters asking their members to “call on Tim Kaine”, Trippi makes the obvious accusations

Getting closer to the point, Trippi added: “You don’t have to look any further than Rahm Emanuel.”

Whomever. What was that B0bot quote back in June?

Obama did not install one of his cronies, which would be a huge change over past Presidencies.

Indeed. A whole day since the DNC illegally awarded him the primary and no cronie in sight. Hooray.

But just so I show that I am not bitter, i’ll end this with some saucy famous last words from Dean. In an interview with Tweety before the trip he said:

“You gotta hand it to Blagojevich,” said Dean of the embattled Illinois governor’s brazen appointment of Roland Burris to succeed Obama in the Senate. “What a maneuver! What a maneuver! When his back was against the wall he outsmarted a lot of people.”

Indeed, Howard. And I am enjoying it as much as you do

From  Vermont

Democrats with knowledge of the situation said Dean has clashed with Obama aides and Democratic leaders in Congress and had been asked by Obama advisers not to attend.

We asked the DNC what is in the future for Howard Dean and so far have had no reply.

In Mudville denial prevails – softened by the many news reports. There are the usual “DLC did this” and a few even take issue with Teh One

IMO, Obama doesn’t want to appear with Howard Dean because

Dean is viewed by some as too “out there” or too liberal. The MSM tried to portray Dean as a left-wing screaming nut job. I don’t think Obama wants to be associated with him because Obama wants to govern toward the center and not be accused of being liberal in any way. It’s similar to when Obama didn’t want to be photographed with Mayor Gavin Newsom

and someone even draws a picture – probably a better header than mine

Are we ready for the “Progressive Party” yet?

We are listing so far to the
right we are in danger of
tipping over.

while others blame….Hillary

I went through hell in the primaries, but I told the truth. Hillary and Bill encouraged two states to break the primary rules and then blamed Dean. A sneaky trick.

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IF it is true, it hits me as bad as Obama’s honoring Bigot Warren and will provide absolute and unmistakable evidence of lack of character in the Ego and Expediency President. (You gotta’ admit, there is plenty of characterLESS smoke around BO.)

And speaking of that …

what in the world is the deal with Obama’s treatment of Wesley Clark and why?

Indeed, this reminded me of Clarn and the Convention too. Ads B0bot:

If that is indeed what put Clark totally and rudely out of the loop — when he was rightfully DEFENDING Obama. . .

it is plainly obvious what kind of new President we have.

There is a lot of yelling at DLC, Emanuel, Hillary – a smattering of primary memories…

and the host himself is jumping in, waving his credentials

This blog’s history is that we were the first major blog to support Obama a year ago. And Huff Post and AP are not notorious for misleading headlines – I think you have them confused with FOX News. Howard Dean should have been there, and he wasn’t – something is up, and now we hear that he was told not to attend. The facts are damning, don’t blame us for reporting the truth. Obama is screwing up and it’s hurting all of us.

Indeed. The first idiots are now deluding themselves they are the first to wake up. This is fun!

And some are beginning to shed the rosy glasses

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I think you need to dig a little deeper on this one. Between the tax cuts and shunning Dean, I am beginning to get a feeling that Obama’s team is not listening to the folks who voted him in.
No shit, Sherlock!
But I like this one best

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Chicago blood (brothers) thicker than Democratic Party water.
For the symmetry with the “no cronies” ode back in June.
So, I am having fun today. Remembering the day when Dean called PUMAs ‘low class”. And how ironic do those words sound?
It is not easy to be on the losing side and I know … because four years ago, I was on the losing side.”
How about now, Howard? Which side are you on now?

Not Your Sweetie

October 2020