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Been on DU )first time in years) looking for that poster. Didn’t find it, but I found one of the most mind boggling cause for celebration

Kristol Blasts Romney For Ignoring Afghanistan, U.S. Troops In Convention Speech

More pertinently, they do not like this meme at all

It’s time to retire the “Are you better off then you were 4 years ago” stupidity.

One campaign meme on Facebook answered this by “Of course we were better the day Obama took office, because Bush was gone. *can’t find me asthey didn’t like my comment)  Fair enough, but any good news since?

Here’s a by the numbers answer

Gross Domestic Product
Fourth quarter, 2008: -6.2 percent
Second quarter, 2012: +1.7 percent

Jobless Americans
January 2009: 11.1 million
Now: 12.8 million

Unemployment rate, overall
January 2009: 7.8 percent
Now: 8.3 percent

Median family income
2008: $52,029
End of 2011: $51,413

and more.

The more notable comment in that Facebook exchange: Better disappointment than disaster. Which still doesn’t reach the heights of Avrosis comparing Obama to chemotherapy

or a mattress collecting your broken bones after a fall


Since reading Miq post, I had edited the Wikipedia article, (criticism section) adding some disclosure about James Roosevelt

In the interest of disclosure, it must be said that James Roosevelt was also the CEO of Tuft Healthcare Institute and a few months after giving Obama delegates in a state he didn’t run was drafting the insurers demands for the healthcare bill which all ended up in the law | url =

We’ll see if it stays.

As for the blog wars nonsense, while I am flatered that I am featured by both the original handle (Edgeoforever) and the present one (Not Your Sweetie), I must also remark that I didn’t split from anywhere. I have always been an independent blogger – and in the summer of 2008 I was part of the PUMA movement. I still read the Confluence. Myiq and Murphy’s entries regularly.

Here is Myiq’s article

I'm famous!!! No, seriously. I was looking for something else and I stumbled across this at Wikipedia: Blog wars In the aftermath of Barack Obama’s election, the PUMA’s online presence has fractured into numerous warring groups. The once-united bloggers at The Confluence split in 2009 over a variety of differences, most of which had nothing to do with the actual 2008 presidential election. One of The Confluence’s most tenacious bloggers, the highly divisive My … Read More

via The Crawdad Hole

New epiphanies

Obama is not bringing a knife to the gunfight with the Republicans.

He’s bringing some casserole to share.

All agreements. One slim hope

3. well that’s nice
is there at least some exlax in the casserole? Permalink

Most popular discussion

My hero,Dr. Cornel West,on Bush,and current Obama administration

CORNEL WEST: And I would say that even about the Obama administration. The Obama administration seems to have very little concern about poor people and their social misery. Look at the policies vis-à-vis Wall Street downplaying Main Street. Look at the policies of black farmers, a settlement already in place but they don’t want to executed because they don’t want to be associated with black folk too explicitly. Look at the dilapidated housing. We can go across the board. Look at the New Jim Crow system: the Prison Industrial Complex. We’re not talking just about individual presidents. We’re talking about a system that is tilted against poor people, against working people, disproportionately black and brown and red.

Suddenly, they can criticize Obama without being called racist!

12. I guess we won’t see the “this is just more racism from the left”

crowd in this thread. thanks for posting!

Most posts are pure Cornel West worship.

36. Dr. Cornell West, my brother.

What a voice for the down trodden. A national treasure.And he maintains his joy in life. Saint!

Still, some Os are undounted

45. Stupid lie; the administration is plenty concerned about the poor

What a lousy commentary. Permalink

But hiding behind West’s color gave them courage

60. Obama Admin. seems concerned with creating MORE poor ….

from the wars to the bailouts, from the Cat Food Commission to the Foreclosures!

Cutting food stamps — !! Permalink

For fun

What if I just whipped it out while being screened by TSA?

Would it be considered helping them do their jobs, or would they come down hard on me? Just wondering. Any TSA airport screeners out there?

I’m going to fly next month so any tips or ideas would be appreciated.

(Oh yeah, I’m a male, btw :)

Hilarity ensues.

Ob-Bush-Obama.gif Bushbama picture by Robbedvoter

However, as Obama weighs in, lots of anger

Obama: TSA pat-downs frustrating but necessary

“I understand people’s frustrations, and what I’ve said to the TSA is that you have to constantly refine and measure whether what we’re doing is the only way to assure the American people’s safety. And you also have to think through are there other ways of doing it that are less intrusive,” Obama said.

“But at this point, TSA in consultation with counterterrorism experts have indicated to me that the procedures that they have been putting in place are the only ones right now that they consider to be effective against the kind of threat that we saw in the Christmas Day bombing.”

Some of the reactions

13. How can he possibly understand it considering he and his

wife and daughters don’t have to go through it?
Firs he, with his wife and daughters should go through airport security, be patted down and scanned, and then he should talk on how he understands it. Permalink


2. Then he will be willing to set an example as a leader and

subject his wife and daughters and himself, to these abusive practices. He gets further and further away from the people every time he speaks on issues that are important to the people.

I know what is good for me and my family. A politician who is protected from these abuses cannot and does not speak for me. And to think I once thought he did.

Michael Chertoff thanks him for his free ad for his disgusting product. Permalink

and then there’s a picture

. Obey

or ELSE.



21. Obama is stupid
He may be a smart man but this office has made him dumb. He seems to have no ability to think for himself or to do anything other than what his hand picked “experts” tell him. Permalink

the most succint

29. Kiss my ass. Seriously. We’re talking about molestation here. Not “frustration”.


Another one

The President decides. TSA groping will continue.

where the defenders try hard

72. SO is Obama an evil fascist or just an enabler of molesters according to DU?



137. Basically Obama is “covering his own ass”

(in case of an attack) while everyone else gets theirs groped. :argh: Permalink

and a new one

I am sorry. I can’t support any President who requires naked pictures or groping of my genitals to–

to keep me “safe.”

Biden hearts Obama. Some O’s not so much.

“He’s got backbone like ramrod, a brain bigger than his skull and a heart that just keeps beating”

and don’t forget clean and articulate.

I noticed the link to the thread doesn’t work – can’t fix it. Use the comments links to get to it – they work

My favorite comment

1. thought you were talking about…..

the Dos Equis guy……… Permalink

Another good one

15. Faster than a locomotive. More powerful than….. Permalink

Another epiphany

Do you feel an opportunity was squandered after the election of 2008?

…..The Republican President and the Republican Party were at the bottom of it all. They could have been forced to agree with just about any policy that would help to get our economy stabilized. They had no choice.

But somehow, the Democrats let them back into the game. They did not apply the knockout punch which was deserved and called for. After a year of debating healthcare reform, they had regained their credibility with a lot of voters. Then, they killed the Democrats in the midterm elections a few weeks ago. Did the Democrats squander an opportunity to put the Republicans away for a long time?

Many think the answer is “yes”. But the loyal Os are still at it

118. Uh, let’s see…

Saving us from a massive depression, passing historic healthcare legislation, just to mention a couple things. How is it obvious that the answer is yes? Permalink

Others blame the media, congress and …high expectations

The cartoon that is on my Jr.jr page for a year now as well as more recent entries, including the very popular latest DUdies finally makes its way there (with the disclaimer it’s “from Canada” – kinda like the Coneheads were “from France”). I found it at Truthdig. Last year when these scaners were first discussed.

Fine. Canada I am.

ouch (from Canada)

It’s almost unanimously praised. Almost

19. Of Course! Obama is EXACTLY the same as Bush!

Nothing could possibly make more sense!

He was born into money and power, failed upwards his entire life, was a C student, a womanizer, an alcoholic coke-head, a PNAC puppet installed in office for the sake of launching wars in the Middle East, a personal embarrassment to the US in every foreign nation he made a diplomatic faux-pas, the vast majority of the world despises him, he has blown off warnings about terrorsts entirely, corporations and their minions LOVE him, he has helped funnel billions of dollars to his cronies’ and father’s business interests, he is inarticulate, intellectually incurious, and can’t pronounce the word ‘nuclear’.

Can’t even tell which one I’m talking about, can you? Permalink

I have to give this the DUdie .

f_9000006m_299a146.gif picture by Edgeoforever

It feels like Biden would get it, but considering the ecstasy here, the O’s have it

“He’s got backbone like ramrod, a brain bigger than his skull and a heart that just keeps beating”

and don’t forget clean and articulate. My favorite comment

1. thought you were talking about…..

the Dos Equis guy……… Permalink

See you back Friday, for the next edition!.

A very insightful UK analysis

The Real Reason President Obama Has Let Us All Down

They know the people who caused the crash are fatter than ever, while the people who had nothing to do with it take the pain, and Obama is left calling this farce progress. In the absence of a liberal populism that would have actually fixed these problems, all the oxygen goes to the fake populism of the Tea Party. US politics has ended up as a battle between the mostly corrupt and the entirely corrupt.

is met with the usual “Love Obama or die” attitude from 2008,

20. who’s ‘us all’ ?


23. You’re so polite. I was going to say, “What’s this ‘us all’ shit?!1′ ” n/t Permalink

A very good question

Flashback: I wonder if Biden regrets not allowing witnesses who would have corroborated Anita Hill?

Trolls officially take over the place as an Obama booster reveals his true identity with just enough hypocrisy

I Once Spent Almost Four Years Posting on a Right-wing Forum,

Free Republic, trying to convince people that their approach was wrong and that they were wrong….
In those almost four years, I wrote over 23,000 posts. I always avoided breaking any rules of the site, and so was allowed to stay there as some sort of “token liberal.”….

to make them see him as a hero

I applaud you, my dear MineralMan!

I admire your creativity, your intelligence, and your tenacity in the face of what had to be really distasteful postings…

Thank you.

Recommended. Permalink

Very few dare object – this post has been since deleted

97. Yes…it’s said you Posted on “Free Republic for Years!” Yet…

you had some “transformation” and ended up here on DU where you trash folks who’ve been here for YEARS…WORKING FOR YEARS against the RIGHT WING…and YOU THINK YOU ARE SPECIAL and ABOVE US!

You who spent your years “over there” but come HERE and TRASH WORKERS FOR YEARS FOR DEMOCRATS!


As a CHRISTIAN…I should be so ACCEPTING of your “Saul Moment ..struck down on Road to Damascus” in the BLINDING LIGHT….

But, I don’t trust you seeing how you BULLY and SWAGGER your way around Democratic Underground.

What Say You? :shrug: Permalink

But they are soon put in their place

129. And I don’t trust anyone who does nothing but trash a Democratic President on a Democratic site.

Go figure. Permalink

Another one ripe for deletion

141. so you were patronizing at Free Republic as well, assuming

you could change minds to your superior way of thinking. We lesser folk are just soo privileged to have you in our midst. :D Permalink

and another

99. Ah…the GREAT SAGE comes to Share his WISDOM about his Years at “FEEPERLAND”

and we are to sit in AWE of his GREAT WISDOM! Give me a break..from your SAGE WISDOM! Permalink

Preserving them as so many re deleted

Obey Teh Leader is the only thing required for total trust. Nothing changed from 2008 Karl Rove was believed more than Paul Krugman.

The Freeper’s beatification is even more jarring when Skinner is whitewashing it all

One of the biggest obstacles we face here on Democratic Underground is human nature.

We are all progressives here. We all share the same core values. Our arguments — when we have them — are about the details. It is easy to believe that a different opinion on the details is a clue to ones opinion on the big picture stuff. But here on DU, that usually isn’t the case. We all want the same things.

yeah, all. Freepers, Cat Food commission boosters and others – they are all progressives. And everyone screaming “bitch” and “cunt” in 2008. Very progressive. Until Dear leader declares the word to be icky at least.

I am thinking – strong DUdie contender.

The power of distraction –

White House meeting to discuss legislative repeal of DADT in 2010.

Much debate followed by the right comment

20. “Here’s a shiny object…don’t forget to vote next week.” n/t Permalink

Is there a shadow of a doubt I see?

Could Obama have done things differently

Notice the apologetic tone

Moderators: If a candid discussion on Obama, Democratic Party policy, and Republican methods of hijacking the agenda are not permitted then please just delete this post.

Ends with unwarranted hope

17. I Just Hope He’s Learned His Lesson.

Would suck if he went back to business as usual after November again.

Yeah. Hope. And don’t forget Change.

Mr B+ also calls himself a “progressive” – if Obama would be a DU-er, this would be this week’s DUdie

Obama tells blogger he’s a progressive

eventually this mindboggling definition came

10. He is a progressive pragmist

he governs so that he can get things pass and move the country forward. It might not move as far out (left) as you would like but it sure as hell isn’t moving backwards and he isn’t standing still (centrist).Permalink

Got news for Angee: HCR, reinstating DADT,  Catfood commission – sure as hell move(d) us backwards . But the smart comment is this one

27. does Robert Gibbs know this?

he’s going to think his boss is on drugs. Permalink

Of course, Obama would also have to call himself a whiner.

And the most popular thread on DU celebrate Obama’s “reaching out to the common man” (as represented by the Daily Show audience) It gets my DUdie,

f_9000006m_299a146.gif picture by Edgeoforever

as I am a common man (woman?)

For whatever it’s worth: I was WRONG about Obama. I just watched him on Jon Stewart.

I think I saw a different side of him than I’d ever seen before.
I loved the fact that he made himself vulnerable and opened himself
to any questions that were asked of him. (How many of YOU would
allow themselves to be cross-examined by the likes of Jon Stewart?)
Seems like Obama really reached out to the common man. Basically,
he explained himself and I, for one, loved that.

There are many more gushing paragraphs after this one, but the “common man” got to me.


Remember Howard Dean? The guy who said he didn’t notice the sexism during the 2008 campaign because he didn’t have cable? But now that he found out about it, he was so incensed?

He always had the gift to say either the right thing at the wrong time or the other way around.

In this case, the timing is out of Dean’s control. Someone included his quote in a book and Huffpo chose to write about it

Dean Called Rahm’s ‘Contempt’ For Base ‘Devastating And Incredibly Demoralizing’: Book Excerpt

Of course, like in the case of the sexism remarks, Dean’s good words come out a bit late.

Little did he know when he was settling accounts with his political arch-rival that Obama will run around with the same sharp scissors by the time his comment got out. But the words are pretty good:

“I’m not looking to pick another fight with Rahm Emanuel, but the contempt with which he held the progressive wing of the party was devastating and incredibly demoralizing,” Dean said. “That’s basically saying to your own people — you got us here, now FU.”

and this is right on too

Dean is quoted as saying. “The principal problem with OFA is the same one the president’s having. You can’t dictate to your base what’s going to happen. It’s got to be a two-way deal, and it hasn’t been.”

Of course, now that this became the official 2 step strategy to move the country to the right (lose election, blame the left), Dean’s words are twisting in the air…

Asked to comment on this article, he predictably refused.

On DU, a loving tribute to Dean was posted, with some engaging in happy, safe Rahm kicking.

One of Obama’s apologists though noticed the flaw

2. Hmmm?

“Dean did not immediately return a request for comment about the most recent round of Obama-Biden statements.”Yeah, let’s pull out old statement by Dean to give the impression that he disagrees with the President.

Howard Dean said recently that health care was real reform. Want to pull out his old statements about the bill? Permalink

and even finds a recent dean appearance where he predicts victory in Novemver and praises Obama


That was a very short lived rebellion – even shorter than “kill the bill” and “I Support Obama, but not vigurously”

The vigor days are gone…

Ad yea, I am petty enough to chalk one more mark for Dean in my Schadenfreude list

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