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Why are some of us pissed off and uneasy?


Obama Administration: US Forces Can Assassinate Americans
NYT: Obama Administration Pressuring NY AG To Accept Bank Settlement Instead Of Prosecuting
Feds threaten crackdown if medical-pot makeover becomes law
White House visitor logs riddled with holes
Obama’s John Yoo Moment– Cherry Picking Lawyers
Activists cry foul over FBI probe – The Washington Post
Emails Show White House Promotes Genetically Engineered Crops in Wildlife Refuges
Obama Broke Pledge to Force Banks to Help Homeowners
Obama’s tough budget cuts: money to help needy pay for heat
Labor unions uneasy as OSHA withdraws proposed rules
Justice Department seeks to have all web surfing tracked
Treasury Blocks Legal Aid for Homeowners Facing Foreclosure | The Nation 
US to lift ban on new cases for Guantanamo detainees
Obama administration keeps new policy on Miranda secret
Drug Makers Win Administration Support in Price Dispute
Counterinsurgency Outsourcing: America’s New Mercenaries in Afghanistan, Middle East, Africa
Obama administration readies indefinite detention order for Guantanamo detainees
War Room: Contrary to public statements, Obama admin fueled conflict in Yemen
A Reversal on End-of-Life Planning Under Medicare
Obama and GOPers Worked Together to Kill Bush Torture Probe
U.S. drops demand for Israeli settlement freeze
Obama waiver allows U.S. aid to 4 countries using child soldiers
The Deal with the Hospital Industry to Kill the Public Option
Blackwater Wins Piece of $10 Billion Mercenary Deal
U.S. Is Said to Expand Secret Actions in Mideast
Obama invokes ‘state secrets’ claim to dismiss suit against targeting of U.S. citizen al-Aulaqi
Despite Fresh Rhetoric About Saving U.S. Manufacturing, Obama Is Quietly Pushing Failed Bush Trade Policies
Administration backs utilities in climate case 
DOJ gags scientists studying BP disaster
US Still Holds Detainee Pentagon Wanted Freed in 2004
Banks to benefit most from White House program to help fight foreclosures
White House proposal would ease FBI access to records of Internet activity
White House Mulling Business Group’s Regulatory Hit List
Obama Hires Fmr. Wellpoint Exec to Implement Health Care Law
Obama – Scientists expected Obama administration to be friendlier
Across From White House, Coffee With Lobbyists 
Administration Hardens Stance Against Leaks to Press
Obama administration backs private twist to public housing
Lawsuit to Challenge Salazar’s Wholesale Disregard of Marine Mammal Protection Laws in Gulf of Mexico
NOAA Warned Interior It Was Underestimating Threat Of Serious Spill
Feds on GMO Labeling: Don’t Tell, Don’t Ask
New rules on terror custody being drafted
Afghans ‘abused at secret prison’ at Bagram airbase
|Obama administration backs telecom immunity
Obama Packs Debt Commission with Social Security Looters
Pesticide Lobbyist Gets Posted as Chief Agricultural Negotiator 
Environmentalists Blast Obama Mining Reversal
More Obama DOJ attacks on whistle-blowers
Obama’s Sudden, Senseless Assault on Medical Marijuana

To name a few.

If course, sources are challenged, messengers attacked. You have comments like this

88. President Obama could crap gold bricks, that crowd would just accuse him
of spending too much for food at the White House. Nothing will satisfy them, or teafucks.
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That poor, poor man! Others, sarcastically post photos of the dog and Obama with babies to appease the malcontent.

My head is spinning from the realization that some former PUMAs (still calling themselves “liberal”) are cheering the police state – Obama’s police state.

So, I went over to Obama’s other supporters and found this interesting conversation

Why can’t Obama issue a “Chill the fuck out, I got this!” over #occupy?


You know? sit down to a beer summit with some of the protesters. Hear them out. He’s been pretty middle of the road over #occupy. Last night he mentioned Occupy and the tea party in the same sentence, so it sounds like he gives them both equal value. That was disappointing.

The answers are fun. Some of course justify everything Obama does.

24. No, you are a useful idiot for the 1%.
 Starbucks Anarchist
You nutjobs who demand some sort of liberal utopia do nothing but attack Obama based on false evidence (like demanding he talk about the issue hours before it actually happened) and proudly state you won’t vote for him, which is an in-kind donation to the GOP, the people who truly side with the 1%. Besides, if Obama did address the issue, you’d claim it was “just a speech.”

So go ahead and be “done.” The GOP and the Koch Brothers thank you for your support. So fuck you. Permalink 

But then you have those

4. Because he serves at the pleasure of the 1%. Seriously, can
you believe the President could appear on a comedy show at exactly the same time his constituents were getting gassed, shot with rubber bullets and beaten down by the cops?

What does that tell you?

Thanks to DUer ‘ChandlerJr’ for pointing out that juxtaposition of Obama and Leno yucking it up while people were getting shot. Un-fucking-acceptable.

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and upon someone objecting that Leno was taped in the morning

Here was my experience: on the TV I saw Obama yucking it
Edited on Thu Oct-27-11 01:34 AM by coalition_unwilling
up with Leno. AT EXACTLY THE SAME TIME, on my laptop I watched livestream as flashbang grenades detonated.

At the same time Occupy Oakland was being criminally assaulted by the Oakland Gestapo, Obama was appearing at a $7500/plate dinner right across the bay and couldnt’ be bothered to say a fucking thing. Fuck that and fuck you.

You go ahead and justify that to your heart’s content. You are a lickspittle and toady for the 1%.

I am so done with Obama and his cohort.

and this conclusion

23. Perfectly stated.
The guy developed an embarrassingly slavish cult following, but anyone that thought he was anything other than just another product of the Chicago political machine (and a corporate sock puppet) need to be beaten with a cluestick.Permalink


There has been a painted truck for years in our neighborhood. Its owner likes to express his political views on it.

Before 2004 it make me smile by sporting a ballot box on its back featuring Bush and someone else – with a check on the second choice.

In 2008 it made me cringe by sporting a “love your president” logo. I have been meaning to make a Goldman Sachs sticker and cover the “your” but I confess I never got around to it.

Which is just as well, because look at its message now:

Of course, the question arises – why would anyone take voting advice from this guy now?.

The Daily caller finally discovered this old story.

To their credit, they cover both sides of the spectrum – GOP blogs in bidding wars between candidates, and on the other side – firmly regimented

On the left, many of the once independent bloggers are now employed by, or receive money from, liberal organizations like Media Matters, the Center for American Progress and Campaign for America’s Future….

Indeed, many of the groups now employing liberal bloggers meet with White House aides for a weekly strategy session on Tuesday afternoons organized by the group Common Purpose. It was here that Obama’s chief of staff Rahm Emanuel famously told independent-minded liberals that they were being “fucking retarded” for straying from the party line.

B0bots only notice the part about the GOP

GOP paying bloggers to write favorable comments about them?

Elsewhere, recently banned koolaid awakees discuss the sellout on the Dem side

They are savvy in noticing the low quality of product visible on B0botland

if there are paid bloggers on DU, whoever is paying them is certainly not getting their money’s worth. It’s almost prima facie evidence of cronyism, nepotism and/or incompetence if that is where our Dem contributions are going.

Of course, they seem to think this all stated a few month ago, or maybe last year, forgetting the times they were doing the grave dancing when progressives supporting Not Obama were banned and attacked. You know, the times Avrosis fondly remembers as

Then there’s all that work we did for the campaign, all the dirty work they asked us to do – and we did it, gladly, and quietly

Good times, good times!

Now all they have are whiners who post deep thoughts like this

our website is kind of fucked up and stupid and doesn’t make much sense and I can’t understand what makes you so bitter and shriveled up and why love Hillary why it’s so lame and guess what Obama won so suck it you lame ass puma retard.

Must be a sign of the recession. Lower pay, lower product….

When the love is great, it withstands hard times. But when something is powered by hatred, and a common hate focus is missing talk of divorce and custody comes in….. And as most don’t stand for anything…

Seems the so called “split in the party” (the koolaid drinkers and the recently awaken) is about to tear B0botland apart

We’re not going to reach our goal this fund drive. Let’s talk.

…..But before you stop reading, the point of this post is not to beg you to dig deep and donate and put us over the top. On the contrary, the point of this post is to tell you this:

Message received.

You don’t like what DU has become. Maybe you have very specific complaints, or maybe you don’t really know exactly what it is that you don’t like. But what you do know is that you wish it was more like the old DU. A community. A place that was special. Where we had big disagreements, but at least you felt like we all had something in common.

Yeah, I miss that DU, too.

Oh, I am sure they don’t talk about the same “old DU” as I am thinking about (pre-2008)

Oh, look, they talk about that

35. This place was even worse during the 2008 primaries, IIRC.

Ugly, ugly, ugly stuff between Obama and Clinton people.

Maybe the difference is that there was an inevitable closure to all that. The winning side obviously stayed, and the losing side either fell in line like loyal Democrats or hit the bricks.

Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Aug-20-10 09:56 AM
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43. I think there are two differences:
1) As you said, we knew there was an end to the primaries.

2) We still had John McCain (and Bush) to unite us.


Yup. Because people who hate together, stay together. Also, people who steal elections together. But only until they divvy up the booty. Then they squabble again.

Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Aug-20-10 09:49 AM
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26. We are kicking around the idea of providing top-level “safe haven” forums for committed partisans.
But we are concerned about the possible unintended consequences. I think our biggest concern is that if we create two mutually-exclusive forums for two groups, then we are forcing people to declare a side, endorsing this idea that we are enemies, and encouraging polarization.

But many of us actually are polarized.

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Uh-oh! Are you going to stay with Mommy or Daddy? Whose basement is bigger? And what’s the penalty for choosing wrong?

as people react to the “forcing” comment it gets waked back. It’s safe havens now (or veal pens)

4. I should have put the word “forcing” in scare quotes.
We certainly would not force anyone to pick a side. But the existence of two safe-haven forums might lead people (who otherwise might not) to pick a side.

And they keep talking about pro- and anti-Obama forums.

I remember when the forum started, after the 2000 theft, it looked like it stood for some principles.

Standing for democracy – sanctity of the right to vote and then civil rights, no wars etc

As members started condoning the breaking of all these, only hatred remains. And it’s unfocused.

Hence the need for divorce.


Since I first posted this, one comment got it

Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-20-10 11:52 AM
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319. From the very beginning of DU —
it was about the Truth. Remember that? The Truth that Al Gore really won that Presidency.

From that day on the Truth was what was foremost.

The Truth about who Bush was, the Truth about what damage his policies were doing to our country, the Truth about the lies we were being fed.

DU was the place we came to because we wanted the Truth, not the bullshit being peddled by the Bush Administration and the mainstream media. And we got the Truth. We had the best and the brightest here, working endlessly to research, to connect, to lay it all out there for us to see.

Skinner, you can either be about the Truth or you can be a partisan. You cannot be both.

There are a million places on the Internet for partisans to make a good, safe home.

The Truth has a harder time finding such a home.


Now, we can fix this in a way that is sensible, that is centrist. I have rejected a whole bunch of provisions that the left wanted that are — you know, they were very adamant about because I thought it would be too disruptive to the system.

and I like this one which sums the fluffers posts


You hate Obama.
You want Sarah Palin to win.
You want a pony.
Obama can’t wave a magic wand.
You want Obama to be a dictator like bush.
You aren’t pragmatic.
We can fix it later.
Not voting is a vote for republicans.
Obama didn’t campaign on that.
It’s okay when Dems do it.
It’s not criticism, it’s bashing.

When confronted with opposing viewpoints, this is what the moderator-approved BOG produces.

How’s that been for business?

Authoritarianism is not bound by party.
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