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Old blog post reprinted threatening anyone thinking primarying Obama in Times union made it on DU
Some good comments
14. But gosh, doesn’t Obama benefit from having the pony purist lefties lambaste him?
Doesn’t it help him establish centrist cred? Permalinkv
Some amazing comments here
In a quick read of the article they talk about Obama taking in $500 million via the
internet — as I recall it was much closer to way over $800 million, closer to $900 million.
Obama then went back on his decision not to take corporate money.
PLUS Obama took in something like another $280,000 from DU members alone!!!
(If I recall that correctly?)
This last election cost $4 BILLION —
Note that for every $7 Republicans got, Democrats got $1 —
Seems to be a message there re “poo on your shoe”?
Possibly Democrats will have second thoughts about it — at least those who
aren’t millionaires and multi-millionaires, or looking to be?
Of course, much of this “internet money” was big donations laundered in small bills, but at least they got it about the future
L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-15-10 02:10 PM
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1. This article assumes Obama won’t change parties
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-15-10 02:21 PM
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12. Maybe we should pay him to change?
and the answe comes
18. He won’t.
He can be a much more effective servant of the PTB by keeping the D.
That way, he blocks access to the White House for any other (i.e. real) Dem.
AND he can implement puke policies while letting the public think it’s all the Democrats fault.
He won’t change parties and his REAL base wouldn’t let him. Permalink
I guess that now that the power grab is complete, one can get away with speaking the truth on DU. In the past, they booted people for far less.
Tis is very popular
with only one attemt to deflect
26. Greenwald is a clown
Wikileaks is not the press. Permalink
In spite of everything going on around them, loyalists still buy this
3. I hope all DU’ers take a moment to actually read the questions of this poll and others like it
The questions are loaded to get a pre-determined outcome and then they are used to beat Americans over the head in an effort to push the findings of the poll as fact.
ABC NEWS/WashPost Poll question 1
Are you in favor of this tax compromise or would you rather have a red hot iron poker slowly inserted into your anus?
The fact is that this and the WaPo/WSJ poll asked questions that insured a high approval result. Simply Google for the poll data and read the questions for yourself! Permalink
And some notes how they all came full circle
Those were the two biggest issues on our platform and the reason we got back into the White House.
Now all of a sudden Bush’s tax program is fair, and the war in Afghanistan is a just war and well worth escalating. Let’s keep spending billions upon billions on wars we can’t win. Makes a lot of sense.
What a difference a year or two makes. Permalink
It’s easy when you have no principles.
The bogus WaPo poll is intruduced thusly
And I can’t for the life of me tell is this answer is sarcastic or not
22. Obama = God!
And the sane people know it… Permalink
especially considering this one
0. Proud liberal here who has come to believe that the president is 100% right on this tax deal
In the short run, anger clouds judgment and reason. Upon deep thought and reflection, I have come to the conclusion that the president is absolutely right!! Permalink
Someone actually puts this thing in context
9. A couple things about this poll………
1. Gallup and McClatchy-Marist have the president at 42% and 46% respectively. That probably means that this poll is an anomaly.
2. If you accep this poll, then the public trust issue of 43/38 is almost a dead heat with the 3.5 MOE.
3. At this time in presidency, Carter was at 50%, in fact Carter was at 51% approval when he lost Reagan two years later.
4. Again, that 87% support among liberals is an anomaly only to this poll. Gallup has him at 69% with liberals and 79% with liberal Democrats. Permalink
Having just read that Obama will cut Social Security next, this was a bracing read
Don’t broad brush ALL liberals. We vary like the colors of the rainbow.
Let’s see how these people will defend the next betrayal coming down the pipe.
Someone even predicts
The GOP is about to take over the House.
But someone knows better
4. Doubt it, if Obama decides to capitulate more. Permalink
Already done, my friend. I feel I am looking at these schmucks from the future. Sorry, can’t be kinder, my survival is at stake and they are guilty.
They still don’t know about SOTU?Social Security yet, so they defend the tax cuts for the rich
A long lecture on how Obama made Rs “play ball” by giving them what they wanted
One cuts through the BS
6. If brilliance is ceding enough ground to force compromise, then you’re right
Perhaps Obama should promise to torture possible terrorists on American soil; then, the Republicans might let him close Guantanamo. Or maybe if he promises to nuke North Korea, the Republicans will let him leave Afghanistan. Permalink
and another view
15. Don’t forget Germany’s masterful victory in WWII
They had Eisenhower by the nads-really kicked his butt. Permalink
Although in all fairness, Germany did fight in that war.
Others think that
Sleep tight Mr. President.
Maybe the Walton’s grandchildren will allow my grandchildren to work in their fucking store…because THAT is the future you negotiated for them.
But whatever you fucking do…don’t be late for your parties! And I hope you take a double dose of cake.
Yup. There are no less that 20 Christmas parties at the White House this year.
On the news that the House bent to the sell-out
Still ignorant of the plans for Social Security
28. This marks the beginning of the end both Social Security and the
Democratic Party. Permalink
Someone attempts sarcasm
13. Maybe He’ll Veto It?
Nobody wants the tax cuts! Even certain rich people don’t want them! Obama really is the P**y President. And an asshole!
P.S.: The people you’ve tickled in a naughty way will still hate you cause you’re black and want you dead. Idiot! Permalink
Who would have thunk it from the man who campaigned on Blackwater being maligned?
It seems it’s no longer illegal on DU to compare Obama to W
1. The overwhelming theme of this administration seems to be ratification of almost every thing ruinous
and rotten junior foisted upon this nation. Permalink
And this morning, the news of Social Security finally makes it there
It’s a call to action from HuffPo
‘Tell the President: Stand up to the Hostage-Takers! Defend Social Security and Medicare.’
Not everyone is buying the framing
2. The Republicans will be blamed by Obama for his own acts, re: SS and Medicare. Permalink
3. Obama created and unleashed the Simpson Bowles Cat Food Commission by executive order
so nothing else that happens under his administration at this point should surprise us at all.
“Send a Message to the President”? Good one. Permalink
And the DUdie
Immediately after the mid term elections he looked like a sad, lost puppy lol…
But now with this tax deal, the speech in North Carolina, the fiery press meeting…it seems he’s getting that swag back. I expect him to hit a huge home run at the State of the Union. Its gonna be a big year for the Pres in 2011…
This concludes today’s DUdies
See you next Tuesday,
There’s a lot of gloating in the media over the return to Reaganomics. Murdoch even put it into his rag
Others show confidence in Daddy’s last blessing Read the rest of this entry »
Today’s quote comes from Paul Begala and it’s about Obama shoving the Reagonomics up a Dem congress
First shotgun wedding I ever saw where the groom held the gun to his own head.”
“Imagine what he could have done to sell a position he wholeheartedly believed in,” Begala said, adding that it “confirms my own belief that if President Obama had chosen to fight he would have won.
“He could have forced the GOP to cave, created more jobs and done less damage to the deficit. First shotgun wedding I ever saw where the groom held the gun to his own head.”
Of course, the question would be, what makes Begala think Obama, the Reagan worshiper, did not believe in this trickle down/vodoo economics?
As if appealing 3 times a court ruling to end DADT didn’t send the message – today we get new clues
ources on the Hill are telling me a big reason DADT repeal isn’t moving faster comes right from 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Despite President Obama’s public support for repeal, with DADT stacked up against the START nuclear arms reduction treaty that Obama carefully brokered with the Russians earlier this year, the White House is putting its legislative push behind START.
I believe Carl Levin said it on TV during last weekend, but this came as 61 votes for the repeal already exist.
The article still maintains the illusion Obama wants DADT, and it’s just a priority issue
No one questions that Obama wants to see DADT end, or that he wants to see it end this year. The concern is over the priorities: Obama, it seems, wants START to come first. And with the White House pushing START (in daily phone calls from top White House officials, according to one source on the Hill), Obama could end up standing in the way of DADT getting done.
“The White House has been crystal clear that their number one priority in this lame duck session is START,” said one Senior Democratic aide.
Of course, if he does want the DADT so damn much, the question is: why does it have to be one or the other? Can’t he bother the Rs with two damn items?
Or as Gibbs put it
“There’s an effort to get this done if we have time to do it,” Gibbs said.
Yeah. They’ll trade it for START – rescuing yet another hostage..