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In B0botland one of the top discussions – based on a Cheetos entry proclaims

Breaking: CNN’s Stunning One-Sided Coverage of Health Care Summit

The conclusion is based on a time breakdown of commercials during Obama and Dems speaking

In the first three hours televised so far, CNN interrupted:

1. Pres. Obama (D) for a Chantax / Pfizer commercial

2. Rep. Steny Hoyer (D) (entire speech) for a Liberator medical device ad as well as an ad by American Future Fund featuring a lipstick-wearing pig which advocated “Tell Congress Start Over and Get Health Care Right.”

3. Pres. Obama (D) for ads (including an ad by the Oil and Gas Industry)

4. Sen. Max Baucus (D-sorta) for ads

5. Rep. Robert Andrews (D) (entire speech) for comment

etc, etc concluding that

In a stunning display of one-sided coverage, during the first three hours of coverage of the Health Care Summit televised so far, CNN only interrupted, whether for commercial or comment, Democratic speakers.

B0bots get incensed and write CNN.

For the other side,

Afrocity posts at the Confluence a different time score

Time Score for summit

Obama spoke over 1 hour
Democrats 3 hours
Republicans 1 hour, 20 minutes.

Yep, it was a set up.

I guess that explains the more commercials during Dem speeches (4 times more?)

Me? I have no intention to defend CNN (I am snickering when B0bots get angry with it), nor do I cry for the poor uncovered GOP.

But after reading this headline

Obama: Bipartisan health deal may not be possible

I wondered for a second what was the purpose of it all was.

After seeing the B0bots so agitated today, I figured it out. A recent headline popped to mind

White House privately plots 2012 campaign run

After all, we are told

The planning for now consists entirely of private conversations, with Obama aides at all levels indulging occasionally in closed-door 2012 discussions while focusing ferociously on the midterm elections and health care reform, the Democratic sources said.

So, was this televised theater an attempt to distract the base from assessing Obama to hating the other guys?

Absolutely. Did it work?

Well, the CNN bias discussion was one of the most popular in B0botland. But not half as popular as the #1 entitled

The Real Reason Obama’s Plan Doesn’t Include a Public Option

You know the one about selling PO out to the hospital industry. So, nice try, but…FAIL!.

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Remember when Donna Brazile sent us old, poor Bubbas packing in favor of their shinier, younger base?

But, Paul, you’re looking at the old coalition. A new Democratic coalition is younger. It is more urban, as well as suburban, and we don’t have to just rely on white blue-collar voters and Hispanics.

Well, I am not exactly shocked to read this headline

Young Voters Cooling towards Democrats

For months now I watched cheerleaders in B0botland saying that whatever troublemakers were saying there does not reflect in polls

but the subtitle of this piece is

Pew Study: 18-to-29 Year Olds’ Support Eroding Following Lack of Change in Washington, Escalating War in Afghanistan

And much as I tend to take all polls with a grain of salt and Pew with 3 grains, this seems to be a way overdue result

First of all, the much touted “big splash” in the presidential election is a joke as well when you look at the numbers

During the presidential election, turnout among 18-to-29 year olds was the highest in years, making up roughly 20 percent of the voters in many states including Virginia and New Jersey, due in part to high participation from young blacks and Hispanics.

20 percent? For that they threw away the blue collar base?

And from THAT, not only did their numbers go down, but their enthusiasm (read turnout) follows. And for that, there’s more proof than just polling – in exit polls from recent elections

Democrats saw evidence of this last November, when Republicans toppled Democrats from power in governor’s races in New Jersey and Virginia. Young, minority and new voters who Obama pulled into the fold in 2008 didn’t turn out at the same levels for the two Democratic candidates. The same thing happened in the Massachusetts Senate race last month.

The poll also illustrates the B0bot finger in the ear mentality

Still, when asked why Obama hadn’t done more to bring change, young adults were somewhat forgiving, with about 56 percent blaming the president’s opponents and special interests; only 30 percent said Obama was the one at fault for not trying hard enough.

But as for Obama’s chances in harnessing them again

Neither party has a hold on 18-to-29 year olds. They tend to vote far less than other age groups, yet they have proven to be a powerful constituency if they are persuaded to vote. And that means the race is on by both Republicans and Democrats to make inroads into the next generation of voters.

Analysts say the findings reflect the fast pace at which young voters live their lives, and both parties should take note of their fickleness.

Oops! Better court the old Bubbas again, eh?

In B0botland there’s mostly approval for these findings

And some justified reserve for the bias in the article

6. Young people aren’t into a blank check for war, bankster bailouts, and mandatory insurance? Fickle!

:rofl:

with the usual head in the sand contingent – surprisingly small


23. Bullshit. Nobody’s going Repig.
Jakes Progress (1000+ posts)

51. They’re not going anywhere. They’re staying home.

but the saner ones are adding to the arguments in the piece

47. You ain’t seen nothin yet.

Wait until Obama & The Democrats FORCE them to BUY worthless Health Insurance.
Better not stand between them and the EXIT.

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It is not the first time we are hearing of the White House fall-back plan. We were told a few times last year

The White House measure appears designed to entice moderate Democrats and perhaps even Republicans into supporting a health care overhaul if legislative efforts in Congress fail or if they move too far to the left.

Now, bent on his reelection campaign, Obama finally pulled it out, ready to “dare” GOP with it.

Of course, we now hear from Freudian slip Biden that the bipartisan healthcare summit was supposed to be kabuki theater anyway

Biden told the News Journal that the six-hour meeting “could be pure theater.”

“This could end up not being good,” Biden said in the interview. “But I know of no other way than to just keep pushing, saying, ‘Guys, OK, this is our idea. What’s your idea?'”

So that would explain surrendering ahead of time:  Before the fall-back even getting on the table, a fall back to the fall-back has been discovered

Obama Readies a Fallback Health-Care Proposal

According to WSJ

would provide health insurance to perhaps 15 million Americans, about half what the comprehensive bill would cover, according to two people familiar with the planning.

t would do that by requiring insurance companies to allow people up to 26 years old to stay on their parents’ health plans, and by modestly expanding two federal-state health programs, Medicaid and the Children’s Health Insurance Program, one person said. The cost to the federal government would be about one-fourth the price tag for the broader effort, which the White House has said would cost about $950 billion over 10 years.

The article doesn’t mention the mandates, so I will assume they are still in (or else, I would be happy with this fallback)

B0bots are understandably unhappy So much so, one actually wrote

6. Obama has turned out to be a big fat worthless fucking zero in a suit. He makes

Bill Clinton look like César Chávez.

Which if you consider the obsessive, virulent CDS there, is something!

From the White House mouthpiece comes the denial in the propaganda outlet

White House Denies Report Obama Is Considering Scaled-Back Reform Plan

Administration officials with knowledge of current health care negotiations pushed back Wednesday evening against a report that the White House is readying a paired-down (sic) version of reform should the current proposal fail to win sufficient congressional support

Of course, they can’t say WSJ made up the story, so they contradict themselves by admitting

“This proposal was developed because the president wanted to know what the impact would be if he had to go small post-Massachusetts [Senate race]. It’s not where we are,” the official said.

“As you can tell from covering the news this week,” the official added, “this is not the proposal we’re pursuing.”

In other words: “As you can tell from our propaganda news we are putting plan “A” publicly, so stop saying that.

Even B0bots smell the BS on that one

I call bullshit on the article..who besides freepers

spell “pared down” as “paired down”???
I smell a rat.

and

8. Unfortunately, this Huff Post article makes no sense.

First, they “pushed back Wednesday evening against a report that the White House is readying a paired-down version of reform”, but then two paragraphs down they admit that “a fallback option had been developed”??

As numerous people have already posted, if you’ve developed a worst-case scenario fall back option, you have no choice but to keep it secret. Now the whole country knows that Obama has a plan-B, even if he’s supposedly still pushing for the original proposal.

I like Obama, but he’s repeatedly shown that he’s too naive and weak-willed to be a good president. I’m hoping he’ll eventually wise up and grow a spine.

Others of course are still trying to believe.

This small plan also rings a bell. Something I read in Milbank’s piece on Rahm Emanuel

Obama’s greatest mistake was failing to listen to Emanuel on health care. Early on, Emanuel argued for a smaller bill with popular items, such as expanding health coverage for children and young adults, that could win some Republican support. He opposed the public option as a needless distraction.

And here it is again! Seems like Rahm wasn’t leaving, just kicking some more a* as I expected…

Me, I recall those days when everyone was calling Obama a brilliant politician event though he barely made it past the finish line with all the money, media and RNC pushing him.

A brilliant politician would have started with single payer – even if he didn’t wanted it. And negotiated it down to what he wanted.

Obama still goes with the “send me anything to sign called healthcare and I’ll declare victory”

After all, it’s only for campaign rhetoric anyway.

let’s give a B0bot the last word:

31. Our worthless empty-suit president milquetoast strikes again!

He’s turned out to be a real piece of work. I’ve come to the conclusion that all of obama’s vaunted ‘intelligence’ is nothing more than wishful thinking. He’s not really a very smart man at all.

But what does it say of those who were taken in?

Update

Single payer advocates were excluded from the bipartisan theater

Although the physicians’ group requested an invitation to Thursday’s summit at Blair House, no reply from the White House has been forthcoming, Young said. The group also noted: “Similarly, requests from Reps. Dennis Kucinich of Ohio, Anthony Weiner of New York and Peter Welch of Vermont that single-payer advocates be included in the meeting have apparently gone unanswered.”

As for the real reason Public Option has been ditched (h/t kpete in B0botland)  is not because they don’t have the voters but-  Obama sold that to hospital lobbyists back in August

Several hospital lobbyists involved in the White House deals said it was understood as a condition of their support that the final legislation would not include a government-run health plan paying Medicare rates — generally 80 percent of private sector rates — or controlled by the secretary of health and human services.

“We have an agreement with the White House that I’m very confident will be seen all the way through conference,”

So, there

Update

So much for the White House denial earlier

Hoyer: Obama open to scaled-down bill

President Barack Obama is open to passing a scaled-back healthcare bill if the current, more comprehensive plan fails, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said Thursday…

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Stars and Stripes notes the hallmark war toll and from their headline I fnd out that the stupid Bush marketing name was never changed

and it reads painfully accurate now

In Moonie Times, Hillary makes a headline and Bernake is gunning for our Social Security again

as LA Times tells us that he’ll postpone cuts in deficit as the growth so far is unsustainable

WaPo informs us on another Obama cave-in, this time on consumer protection.

On the bright side, Maryland will recognize gay marriages from other states.

Another spectacular cave-in is barely visible in the “What’s News” section of WSJ”: Obama has a scaled back HCR – before even trying out the “daring one”

President Barack Obama will use a bipartisan summit Thursday to push for sweeping health-care legislation, but if that fails to generate enough support the White House has prepared the outlines of a more modest plan.

His leading alternate approach would provide health insurance to perhaps 15 million Americans, about half what the comprehensive bill would cover, according to two people familiar with the planning.

Cave-in nothwithstanding, if this one doesn’t have mandates, I could cheer for it

It would do that by requiring insurance companies to allow people up to 26 years old to stay on their parents’ health plans, and by modestly expanding two federal-state health programs, Medicaid and the Children’s Health Insurance Program

In NY, the Daily News got back to its assigned job of attacking the Governor (anything, to see what sticks)

while NY Post follows up the Katrina aid investigation

and AM-NY tells us about new ways MTA will screw us – subways were actually safe for some years now

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