from MrFish

When the torture memos got released and Obama made his “future not past” speech, it’s been implied by administration officials that

nothing said by Obama or Holder today should be understood to foreclose criminal prosecutions.  For all the reasons Jameel describes, I agree with that assessment, and Marc Ambinder reports that senior Obama officials told him (anonymously, of course) that nothing Obama or Eric Holder said today was intended to foreclose prosecutions.

Well, that must have been lost in the editing room, because now, the administration officials do the talk show circuit announcing tweaking Obama’s statement

I asked Emanuel: “The president has ruled out prosecution for CIA officials who believed they were following the law. Does he believe that the officials who devised the policies should be immune from prosecution?”(asked Snafulopagus)

To which Emmanuel heed and hawed

He came up with this and worked on this for about four weeks. Wrote that statement Wednesday night after he had made his decision and dictated what he wanted to see. And Thursday morning I saw him in the office, he was still editing it.

(cue in the  photo of W with glasses marking his speech that contained “the 16 words”- which he later claimed – he wasn’t aware of). So, the result of all Obama work? (amazingly, Snafi repeats the question)

What about those who devised the policy, I asked?

“Yeah, but those who devised the policy, he believes that they were, should not be prosecuted either,” Emanuel said.

Looks like for a second Rahm was trying to say that these people were also “good faith torturers” but gave up and simply declared that they also get off. Sooo…after all the masterful editing, what was the purpose of the “good faith” qualifier if everyone was going to get off anyway?

Which is lovely, considering this NY Times headline

Waterboarding Used 266 Times on 2 Suspects

Makes you consider this statement about Obama recorded in same NY Times

“The thing we still don’t know about him is what he is willing to fight for,

“The thing I worry about is that he likes giving good speeches, he likes the adulation and he likes to make people happy.” So far, he said, “It’s hard to think of a place where he’s taken a really hard position.”

That comes from an economist, but applies to civil rights and just about everything.

Which earns him an AP fluff piece based almost entirely on Axelrod’s declarations in which they praise Obama for

But Obama is outpacing even Gorbachev.

Wow! Even Gorbacev!(in distancing himself from predecessor internationally, that is). Well, if that’s what Axelrod says…


More on no responsibility from Gibbs while CIA is patted on the shoulder – “there, there”

“Don’t be discouraged by what’s happened in the last few weeks,” he told employees. “Don’t be discouraged that we have to acknowledge potentially we’ve made some mistakes. That’s how we learn.

while Cheney is trying to make Obama look good by talking about “successes

“It worked. It’s been enormously valuable in terms of saving lives,