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Here’s Charlie Gibson and his first interview of Obama

and here’s Palin’s interview

Update of September 13

This is the selective transcript ABC published

here’s one chunk edited out

We cannot repeat the Cold War. We are thankful that, under Reagan, we won the Cold War, without a shot fired, also. We’ve learned lessons from that in our relationship with Russia, previously the Soviet Union.

We will not repeat a Cold War. We must have good relationship with our allies, pressuring, also, helping us to remind Russia that it’s in their benefit, also, a mutually beneficial relationship for us all to be getting along.

The mission was to make her look like a warmonger….

another link complete with videos

The question seems to be changing. Instead of “Why isn’t he doing better”? we get “Why Obama might not win”

It’s still behind the numbers, but getting there…

Gerard Baker at Time UK discards some lofty cultural war arguments – and some base ones – racism  as condescending, to thankfully get at the truth: the problem is the candidate himself

The essential problem coming to light is a profound disconnect between the Barack Obama of the candidate’s speeches, and the Barack Obama who has actually been in politics for the past decade or so.

After analizing some of the disconnects – from a right wing perspective (I have many more from the left)

he reaches an astonishingly true conclusion

t’s been remarked that the biggest difference between Americans and Europeans is religion: ignorant Americans cling to faith; enlightened Europeans long ago embraced the liberating power of reason. Yet here’s an odd thing about this election. Europeans are asking Americans to take a leap of faith, to break the chains of empiricism and embrace the possibility of the imagination.

The fact is that a vote for Mr Obama demands uncritical subservience to the irrational, anti-empirical proposition that the past holds no clues about the future, that promise is wholly detached from experience. The second-greatest story ever told, perhaps.

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Will goes back to HuffPo where he started writing about PUMA

After he sums up what went on

Everything that is wrong with the system favored Barack Obama. Everything that is right about the system favored Hillary Clinton.

Many of us PUMAs feel that the DNC did to us in 2008 what the RNC and the Supreme Court did to us in 2000. Barack Obama represents the will of the DNC — He does *not* represent the will of the Democratic voter. It is this betrayal and hypocrisy that have led us to a place where we cannot fathom validating Obama with our votes this November.

He sums up our goals for the future

So what’s next? PUMAs are as committed as ever *not* to vote for Barack Obama in November. Some of us will be voting for John McCain. Some of us will be voting for a third-party candidate. Some of us will be writing-in Hillary Clinton’s name. And some of us will be abstaining altogether.

Beyond this, many PUMAs want to salvage the Democratic Party itself… if we still can. Still supporting most down-ticket Democrats, PUMAs want to see drastic changes in Party *leadership*.

And we’re with you all the way, Will!

oh, and the digg of the article is here

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It was bound to

Contract Bid Ask Last Vol Chge
2008.PRES.McCAIN
John McCain to win 2008 US Presidential Election
M Trade 52.6 53.0 53.0 536916 +2.5
2008.PRES.OBAMA
Barack Obama to win 2008 US Presidential Election
M Trade 46.6 46.7 46.7 411565 -1.7

I was waiting for this

But the sweet surprise: while Obama is going down, Hillary’s chances are going up!

2008.PRES.CLINTON(H)
Hillary Clinton to win 2008 US Presidential Election
M Trade 2.8 2.9 3.1 548560 +0.3

yes, for 2008!

clintons.jpg picture by Robbedvoter

Politico writer makes some not to unrealistic speculations:

Some of the points

1. Don’t make this about you.

Easier said than done. With Obama – what else is there?

4. Make the election about something big.

It’s a mistake, Clinton believes, for a presidential nominee of one party to be arguing about the vice presidential nominee of the other party, as Obama has been over Sarah Palin in recent days.

5. Spend more time speaking to your opponents.

I’ll stop at two of them

6. Don’t take Hillary voters for granted.

Obama’s strategists believed that they did not have to worry that much about Hillary Clinton’s women backers, because they figured that most of them were liberal, abortion-rights supporters who will vote for the Democrat even if the nominee was not their first choice.

That was probably true for about two-thirds of those voters, according to one Clinton strategist’s appraisal of polling data. But another one-third of Clinton’s women supporters were more conservative-tilting working-class women, who were drawn to Clinton because they admired her pluck—and these voters are now a key target group for McCain-Palin.

This is barely touching it. Conservative? Not me. Offended, insulted, patronized – and their votes stolen – more like it. But Maybe Bill wouldn’t tell B0 all about PUMAs – he does not want to be excluded from our secret meetings after all!

I was pleased with the last point

8. And while you are it, give me an apology.

. But Clinton is understandably outraged that people would argue this remark negated a career-long commitment to racial equality—and that Obama stood by mute while such charges were made.

Clinton swallowed his medicine with his speech for Obama in Denver. Obama has still not fully swallowed his by making a public defense of Clinton on race.

It is hubris that will sink Obama – and that’s poetic justice

Update

Some excellent commentary on the actual meeting from Delilah Boyd


And Obama keeps up his “Look at me! I’m tall” body language… while the president remains comfortable in his own skin. If the president stood up straight, Obama would be positively giraffing himself to appear taller.

And my wish came true! madamab wrote a play about what happened – that would be the ultimate version of this – nec plus ultra!

Yup, you’re getting your skinny ass handed to you by a 72-year-old man who’s stuck with the most hated brand since Edsel. And do you know why?

BARACK (snottily): Am I permitted to respond?

BILL (smiling nastily): Go ahead. I’d like to see if you can get one goddamned thing right, or if you are really as stupid as I think you are.

BARACK (sneering): I know why. Because I out-thought, out-played and out-organized your dumb bitch of a wife, and her bitter, menopausal, racist supporters can’t deal with it. And now, they’re voting for Sarah Palin out of revenge, just because she has a vagina!

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