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Update
Been on DU )first time in years) looking for that poster. Didn’t find it, but I found one of the most mind boggling cause for celebration
Kristol Blasts Romney For Ignoring Afghanistan, U.S. Troops In Convention Speech |
More pertinently, they do not like this meme at all
It’s time to retire the “Are you better off then you were 4 years ago” stupidity.
One campaign meme on Facebook answered this by “Of course we were better the day Obama took office, because Bush was gone. *can’t find me asthey didn’t like my comment) Fair enough, but any good news since?
Here’s a by the numbers answer
Gross Domestic Product
Fourth quarter, 2008: -6.2 percent
Second quarter, 2012: +1.7 percent
Jobless Americans
January 2009: 11.1 million
Now: 12.8 million
Unemployment rate, overall
January 2009: 7.8 percent
Now: 8.3 percent
Median family income
2008: $52,029
End of 2011: $51,413
and more.
The more notable comment in that Facebook exchange: Better disappointment than disaster. Which still doesn’t reach the heights of Avrosis comparing Obama to chemotherapy
@emptywheel @stevebenen I agree. But people ARE better off, in the same way someone coming off of Chemo is better off, but feels worse.—
John Aravosis (@aravosis) September 03, 2012
or a mattress collecting your broken bones after a fall
@SusieMadrak you fall off a cliff, I move a mattress in way, stops you, but break every bone. We’re u healthier while falling? Yes.—
John Aravosis (@aravosis) September 03, 2012
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Since reading Miq post, I had edited the Wikipedia article, (criticism section) adding some disclosure about James Roosevelt
In the interest of disclosure, it must be said that James Roosevelt was also the CEO of Tuft Healthcare Institute and a few months after giving Obama delegates in a state he didn’t run was drafting the insurers demands for the healthcare bill which all ended up in the law | url = http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/insurance-ceo-fronts-obama-steals-election-for-him-writes-hcr/
We’ll see if it stays.
As for the blog wars nonsense, while I am flatered that I am featured by both the original handle (Edgeoforever) and the present one (Not Your Sweetie), I must also remark that I didn’t split from anywhere. I have always been an independent blogger – and in the summer of 2008 I was part of the PUMA movement. I still read the Confluence. Myiq and Murphy’s entries regularly.
Here is Myiq’s article
via The Crawdad Hole
New epiphanies

Obama is not bringing a knife to the gunfight with the Republicans.
He’s bringing some casserole to share.
All agreements. One slim hope
3. well that’s nice
is there at least some exlax in the casserole? Permalink
Most popular discussion
My hero,Dr. Cornel West,on Bush,and current Obama administration
CORNEL WEST: And I would say that even about the Obama administration. The Obama administration seems to have very little concern about poor people and their social misery. Look at the policies vis-à-vis Wall Street downplaying Main Street. Look at the policies of black farmers, a settlement already in place but they don’t want to executed because they don’t want to be associated with black folk too explicitly. Look at the dilapidated housing. We can go across the board. Look at the New Jim Crow system: the Prison Industrial Complex. We’re not talking just about individual presidents. We’re talking about a system that is tilted against poor people, against working people, disproportionately black and brown and red.
Suddenly, they can criticize Obama without being called racist!
12. I guess we won’t see the “this is just more racism from the left”
crowd in this thread. thanks for posting!
Most posts are pure Cornel West worship.
36. Dr. Cornell West, my brother.
What a voice for the down trodden. A national treasure.And he maintains his joy in life. Saint!
Still, some Os are undounted
45. Stupid lie; the administration is plenty concerned about the poor
What a lousy commentary. Permalink
But hiding behind West’s color gave them courage
60. Obama Admin. seems concerned with creating MORE poor ….
from the wars to the bailouts, from the Cat Food Commission to the Foreclosures!Cutting food stamps — !! Permalink
For fun
What if I just whipped it out while being screened by TSA?
Would it be considered helping them do their jobs, or would they come down hard on me? Just wondering. Any TSA airport screeners out there?
I’m going to fly next month so any tips or ideas would be appreciated.
(Oh yeah, I’m a male, btw
Hilarity ensues.

However, as Obama weighs in, lots of anger
Obama: TSA pat-downs frustrating but necessary
“I understand people’s frustrations, and what I’ve said to the TSA is that you have to constantly refine and measure whether what we’re doing is the only way to assure the American people’s safety. And you also have to think through are there other ways of doing it that are less intrusive,” Obama said.
“But at this point, TSA in consultation with counterterrorism experts have indicated to me that the procedures that they have been putting in place are the only ones right now that they consider to be effective against the kind of threat that we saw in the Christmas Day bombing.”
Some of the reactions
13. How can he possibly understand it considering he and his
wife and daughters don’t have to go through it?
Firs he, with his wife and daughters should go through airport security, be patted down and scanned, and then he should talk on how he understands it. Permalink
and
2. Then he will be willing to set an example as a leader and
subject his wife and daughters and himself, to these abusive practices. He gets further and further away from the people every time he speaks on issues that are important to the people.I know what is good for me and my family. A politician who is protected from these abuses cannot and does not speak for me. And to think I once thought he did.
Michael Chertoff thanks him for his free ad for his disgusting product. Permalink
and then there’s a picture
. Obey
or ELSE.
and
21. Obama is stupid
He may be a smart man but this office has made him dumb. He seems to have no ability to think for himself or to do anything other than what his hand picked “experts” tell him. Permalink
the most succint
29. Kiss my ass. Seriously. We’re talking about molestation here. Not “frustration”.
Another one
The President decides. TSA groping will continue.
where the defenders try hard
72. SO is Obama an evil fascist or just an enabler of molesters according to DU?
and
137. Basically Obama is “covering his own ass”
(in case of an attack) while everyone else gets theirs groped.Permalink
and a new one

I am sorry. I can’t support any President who requires naked pictures or groping of my genitals to–
to keep me “safe.”
Biden hearts Obama. Some O’s not so much.
“He’s got backbone like ramrod, a brain bigger than his skull and a heart that just keeps beating”
and don’t forget clean and articulate.
I noticed the link to the thread doesn’t work – can’t fix it. Use the comments links to get to it – they work
My favorite comment
1. thought you were talking about…..
the Dos Equis guy……… Permalink
Another good one
15. Faster than a locomotive. More powerful than….. Permalink

Do you feel an opportunity was squandered after the election of 2008?
…..The Republican President and the Republican Party were at the bottom of it all. They could have been forced to agree with just about any policy that would help to get our economy stabilized. They had no choice.
But somehow, the Democrats let them back into the game. They did not apply the knockout punch which was deserved and called for. After a year of debating healthcare reform, they had regained their credibility with a lot of voters. Then, they killed the Democrats in the midterm elections a few weeks ago. Did the Democrats squander an opportunity to put the Republicans away for a long time?
Many think the answer is “yes”. But the loyal Os are still at it
118. Uh, let’s see…
Saving us from a massive depression, passing historic healthcare legislation, just to mention a couple things. How is it obvious that the answer is yes? Permalink
Others blame the media, congress and …high expectations
The cartoon that is on my Jr.jr page for a year now as well as more recent entries, including the very popular latest DUdies finally makes its way there (with the disclaimer it’s “from Canada” – kinda like the Coneheads were “from France”). I found it at Truthdig. Last year when these scaners were first discussed.

Fine. Canada I am.
ouch (from Canada)

It’s almost unanimously praised. Almost
19. Of Course! Obama is EXACTLY the same as Bush!
Nothing could possibly make more sense!He was born into money and power, failed upwards his entire life, was a C student, a womanizer, an alcoholic coke-head, a PNAC puppet installed in office for the sake of launching wars in the Middle East, a personal embarrassment to the US in every foreign nation he made a diplomatic faux-pas, the vast majority of the world despises him, he has blown off warnings about terrorsts entirely, corporations and their minions LOVE him, he has helped funnel billions of dollars to his cronies’ and father’s business interests, he is inarticulate, intellectually incurious, and can’t pronounce the word ‘nuclear’.
Can’t even tell which one I’m talking about, can you? Permalink
I have to give this the DUdie .

It feels like Biden would get it, but considering the ecstasy here, the O’s have it
“He’s got backbone like ramrod, a brain bigger than his skull and a heart that just keeps beating”
and don’t forget clean and articulate. My favorite comment
1. thought you were talking about…..
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the Dos Equis guy……… Permalink
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See you back Friday, for the next edition!.
A very insightful UK analysis

The Real Reason President Obama Has Let Us All Down
They know the people who caused the crash are fatter than ever, while the people who had nothing to do with it take the pain, and Obama is left calling this farce progress. In the absence of a liberal populism that would have actually fixed these problems, all the oxygen goes to the fake populism of the Tea Party. US politics has ended up as a battle between the mostly corrupt and the entirely corrupt.
is met with the usual “Love Obama or die” attitude from 2008,
20. who’s ‘us all’ ?
and
23. You’re so polite. I was going to say, “What’s this ‘us all’ shit?!1′ ” n/t Permalink
A very good question
Flashback: I wonder if Biden regrets not allowing witnesses who would have corroborated Anita Hill?
Trolls officially take over the place as an Obama booster reveals his true identity with just enough hypocrisy
I Once Spent Almost Four Years Posting on a Right-wing Forum,
Free Republic, trying to convince people that their approach was wrong and that they were wrong….
In those almost four years, I wrote over 23,000 posts. I always avoided breaking any rules of the site, and so was allowed to stay there as some sort of “token liberal.”….
to make them see him as a hero
I applaud you, my dear MineralMan!
I admire your creativity, your intelligence, and your tenacity in the face of what had to be really distasteful postings…Thank you.
Recommended. Permalink
Very few dare object – this post has been since deleted
97. Yes…it’s said you Posted on “Free Republic for Years!” Yet…
you had some “transformation” and ended up here on DU where you trash folks who’ve been here for YEARS…WORKING FOR YEARS against the RIGHT WING…and YOU THINK YOU ARE SPECIAL and ABOVE US!You who spent your years “over there” but come HERE and TRASH WORKERS FOR YEARS FOR DEMOCRATS!
EXPLAIN THAT…My FRIEND, “MINERAL MAN.”
As a CHRISTIAN…I should be so ACCEPTING of your “Saul Moment ..struck down on Road to Damascus” in the BLINDING LIGHT….
But, I don’t trust you seeing how you BULLY and SWAGGER your way around Democratic Underground.
What Say You?
Permalink
But they are soon put in their place
129. And I don’t trust anyone who does nothing but trash a Democratic President on a Democratic site.
Go figure. Permalink
Another one ripe for deletion
141. so you were patronizing at Free Republic as well, assuming
you could change minds to your superior way of thinking. We lesser folk are just soo privileged to have you in our midst.Permalink
and another
99. Ah…the GREAT SAGE comes to Share his WISDOM about his Years at “FEEPERLAND”
and we are to sit in AWE of his GREAT WISDOM! Give me a break..from your SAGE WISDOM! Permalink
Preserving them as so many re deleted
Obey Teh Leader is the only thing required for total trust. Nothing changed from 2008 Karl Rove was believed more than Paul Krugman.
The Freeper’s beatification is even more jarring when Skinner is whitewashing it all

One of the biggest obstacles we face here on Democratic Underground is human nature.
We are all progressives here. We all share the same core values. Our arguments — when we have them — are about the details. It is easy to believe that a different opinion on the details is a clue to ones opinion on the big picture stuff. But here on DU, that usually isn’t the case. We all want the same things.
yeah, all. Freepers, Cat Food commission boosters and others – they are all progressives. And everyone screaming “bitch” and “cunt” in 2008. Very progressive. Until Dear leader declares the word to be icky at least.
I am thinking – strong DUdie contender.

White House meeting to discuss legislative repeal of DADT in 2010.
Much debate followed by the right comment
20. ”Here’s a shiny object…don’t forget to vote next week.” n/t Permalink
Is there a shadow of a doubt I see?
Could Obama have done things differently
Notice the apologetic tone
Moderators: If a candid discussion on Obama, Democratic Party policy, and Republican methods of hijacking the agenda are not permitted then please just delete this post.
Ends with unwarranted hope
17. I Just Hope He’s Learned His Lesson.
Would suck if he went back to business as usual after November again.
Yeah. Hope. And don’t forget Change.
Mr B+ also calls himself a “progressive” – if Obama would be a DU-er, this would be this week’s DUdie

Obama tells blogger he’s a progressive
eventually this mindboggling definition came
10. He is a progressive pragmist
he governs so that he can get things pass and move the country forward. It might not move as far out (left) as you would like but it sure as hell isn’t moving backwards and he isn’t standing still (centrist).Permalink
Got news for Angee: HCR, reinstating DADT, Catfood commission – sure as hell move(d) us backwards . But the smart comment is this one
27. does Robert Gibbs know this?
he’s going to think his boss is on drugs. Permalink
Of course, Obama would also have to call himself a whiner.
And the most popular thread on DU celebrate Obama’s “reaching out to the common man” (as represented by the Daily Show audience) It gets my DUdie,


For whatever it’s worth: I was WRONG about Obama. I just watched him on Jon Stewart.
I think I saw a different side of him than I’d ever seen before.
I loved the fact that he made himself vulnerable and opened himself
to any questions that were asked of him. (How many of YOU would
allow themselves to be cross-examined by the likes of Jon Stewart?)
Seems like Obama really reached out to the common man. Basically,
he explained himself and I, for one, loved that.
There are many more gushing paragraphs after this one, but the “common man” got to me.
.

Remember Howard Dean? The guy who said he didn’t notice the sexism during the 2008 campaign because he didn’t have cable? But now that he found out about it, he was so incensed?
He always had the gift to say either the right thing at the wrong time or the other way around.
In this case, the timing is out of Dean’s control. Someone included his quote in a book and Huffpo chose to write about it
Dean Called Rahm’s ‘Contempt’ For Base ‘Devastating And Incredibly Demoralizing’: Book Excerpt
Of course, like in the case of the sexism remarks, Dean’s good words come out a bit late.
Little did he know when he was settling accounts with his political arch-rival that Obama will run around with the same sharp scissors by the time his comment got out. But the words are pretty good:
“I’m not looking to pick another fight with Rahm Emanuel, but the contempt with which he held the progressive wing of the party was devastating and incredibly demoralizing,” Dean said. “That’s basically saying to your own people — you got us here, now FU.”
and this is right on too
Dean is quoted as saying. “The principal problem with OFA is the same one the president’s having. You can’t dictate to your base what’s going to happen. It’s got to be a two-way deal, and it hasn’t been.”
Of course, now that this became the official 2 step strategy to move the country to the right (lose election, blame the left), Dean’s words are twisting in the air…
Asked to comment on this article, he predictably refused.
On DU, a loving tribute to Dean was posted, with some engaging in happy, safe Rahm kicking.
One of Obama’s apologists though noticed the flaw
2. Hmmm?
“Dean did not immediately return a request for comment about the most recent round of Obama-Biden statements.”Yeah, let’s pull out old statement by Dean to give the impression that he disagrees with the President.Howard Dean said recently that health care was real reform. Want to pull out his old statements about the bill? Permalink
and even finds a recent dean appearance where he predicts victory in Novemver and praises Obama
That was a very short lived rebellion – even shorter than “kill the bill” and “I Support Obama, but not vigurously”

Ad yea, I am petty enough to chalk one more mark for Dean in my Schadenfreude list





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