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Where’s the gratitude?
Just thought you guys should know that, while the stimulus of the forthcoming traffic at Mercedes and Maserati dealerships is certainly appreciated.
Some beat on the poor uppity guy
63. A stimulus tax cut was scheduled to end, and is ending.
But no one raised your taxes just because a temporary credit expired. ,,,Permalink
and he responds
71. The one that helps the rich was scheduled to end, too. But only the one for the poor did. n/t Permalink
From Bob Kuttner, calling in to Big Ed’s show today.
Relax, Bob, Os – he was never amazing. It was all in your head – as we warned you over and over. This is good too
20. It’s like these amazing people elected Obama to counter 8 years of Bush, and then their evil twins
started ignoring all the things Obama did to CONTINUE those failed Bush policies, and even offered endless and inane excuses for Obama when he failed to keep even his most basic campaign promises.
You mean like that? Permalink
Of course, you are amazing in your own minds as well.
and the chess continues
They’re holding the START treaty hostage, demanding that Reid not bring up DADT or the Dream Act tommorrow!
WHY was this so hard for Obama to figure out? Lucy, Charlie Brown and the football.
All he had to do was sit there holding the tax cut bill HOSTAGE till they let the votes on the other bills come up!
One actually states
13. Obama seems to have lost his 3 dimensional chess game
We’re in trouble folks, we really are… Permalink
WHAT GAME WAS THAT? He made concessions with historical majorities too!!!!!
More marvels of spin
Let’s face it, this economy isn’t going to start creating jobs all of a sudden just because the tax cut bill was passed. Far from it. If the Democrats had held both houses of Congress, then they would continue to get the blame AND the right would have a valuable card to play in trying to get even more tax concessions from the uber-wealthy and if there is a double-dip, guess who is finally going to get the blame?….
I’m truly hoping that the President takes a good long look at all situations requiring compromise and make sure that the compromise doesn’t screw us in the long-term. Maybe with a Republican House, he’ll also be able to stand firm on various issues now that it won’t seem like he’s running up against a wall created by his own party
5. Great post, toddwv. This is why Boehner is crying all the time and peeing in his shoes.
In a few weeks, he has to show the American people how he governs. I’m giddy about it. Permalink
A more sentient discussion
And, this afternoon, Barack Obama will bless George W. Bush’s obscene tax giveaways to the rich; drill into the sacrosanct, dedicated funding for Social Security for the first time since its creation; and pave the way to bankruptcy for the states and the annihilation of workers’ pension funds.
And Mitch McConnell will be gleefully standing by his side.
Socialism for the rich.
Misery for the people.
A turncoat president.
We have arrived.
13. Incredibly surreal. “Largest welfare check ever written” says it all, doesn’t it ?
Socialism for the filthy rich and Ruthless Corporate Fascism for the rest of us. Permalink
and it comes with this own illustration
But in Cheerleaderland, they are still celebrating
I’d thought facts about Obama would be a good thing to start the morning off with.
And it leads to this priceless exchange
24. LOL! Broken promises my ass.
This man knows how to get shit done — important and vital shit.
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46. Yeah, shit eom
I am a few days late on this but this video has been posted here too and got a net of 57 votes in approvam – before being locked
Of course the butts of the joke have a few problems with it
2. I don’t know…if you’re trying to prove you’re a progressive, this doesn’t cut it.
IMHO, true progressives don’t stereotype as much as you just did by posting this video. Permalink
Some even find …raycism
5. I found the use of stereotypes and the use of color a bit slimy.
and not particularly funny.
Well, except for the Canada comment. That was funny. Permalink
although someone actually gets it
12. They always use the same characters. I take it that you are white?
A few more enjoy it, but then its locked because
We recognize that there is some polarization within the party and on the site at this time. We feel that pieces such as this that mock and ridicule one side are divisive and disruptive. This attacks members instead of encouraging debate about issues.
DU Moderator Permalink
And this confirms it was made for this forum. (on purpose or by fate).
On edit, it was made by an ousted DU-er.
DADT gets cheerleaders in top gear
But I can see no matter what he does, some will find ways to complain about it find a dark side to bitch about.
Thank you President Obama for making the repeal of DADT happen.
Make no mistake about it, our Democratic President made this happen. He reversed a policy created by Bill Clinton.
President Obama made health care reform happen when Bill and Hillary Clinton got lambasted by it.
President Obama is smarter than we know and he is going to continue to make things happen in ways large and small.
I love our President, always have.
Some see the sophistry
61. No, your blind spot notwithstanding, there is a double standard on your side too.
When something bad happens, Pres. Obama can’t take any blame because the votes weren’t there. Something good, it’s a major accomplishment for Pres. Obama, and not simply something that had the votes.
Reminds me of how religious people attribute everything good to the glory of their deity but he’s invariably MIA when bad things happen. Permalink
and to their protests
73. Look, we have a test case today. DADT repeal passed but DREAM failed.
DADT is considered the Presidents accomplishment now. So does he share any blame for the DREAM Act failing? Permalink
and they fall for it
75. Who stopped the Dream Act?
Again, the Republicans are assholes and anti everything.
President Obama supported the Dream Act but he is not on the Congress Floor. It is up to Nancy Pelosi and Reid to to get theis bills moved to the next level.
If President Obama made a deal or some compromise on something else to get it passed then we would here that he compromised.
I do get dissapointed but I am able to at least enjoy a victory before moving on to the next issue.
so they get it
76. And cannot the same be said of DADT? eom Permalink
And they try to say the tax cuts were the price for DADT
DADT probably would never never passed otherwise. And there are a whole host of other reasons as well.
Nice try, but not much of a sale
1. Then it should have been in the tax bill
and some are POd
13. So it’s Teh Gayz fault, eh?
There’s no evidence of any compromise and this bullshit talking point will only hurt the gay community Permalink
and someone provides me with a good illustration
Back to the big “tax break”
Only one gets it
15. What tax break? The same I got for ten years? THAT ONE? Permalink
18. Well now IF I were getting one I would stock the freezer with food and
pay the fuel bill. Since I am on Social Security I will not be doing that any time soon. Permalinkjudi
This week in CDS
Thank you Mr. President for your unwavering commitment to the long fight in repealing DADT!
And thank you for doing it the right way. We all owe you a huge debt of gratitude!
Some of the comments
35. So before Clinton gays could serve? I missed that (nt) Permalink
5. Still fighting the primaries? After two years?
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46. Why is this still open?
The bizarre reference to the First Lady of many years ago should be reason enough. It’s like calling out Mrs. Obama for escalation in Afghanistan. Well, just one of those puzzling things in life I guess.
New ways of offending Obama& Os
and not President Obama or The President. The use of his last name only is an effort to minimize him and disrespect him. The use of his last name without his title is used exclusively by right wing media (Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity never refer to him as “President Obama” but I also see it used very often on DU. He is not “Obama,” he is President Obama the democratically elected President of the United States of America. Don’t help out the right by disrespecting the president.
Some fall in line
21. I agree and I’ll try to make more of an effort to call him “President Obama”
Thanks for this post. It’s something we rarely think about but I never called President Bush just “Bush” I always said “President Bush” just because it was habit. Then for some reason it became habit and cool to just say “Obama” but I think you’re right that psychologically it does have a negative effect on him by not having people actually refer to him as “President” somehow. It’s his title and he earned it, we should show some respect and call him that just like we would a doctor. Permalink
Some are snarky
8. I must disagree with Poster Mortos. Permalink
and some are right
29. Ok. We’ll all refer to the President as Bush, since he’s apparently still in charge.
This reminds me of the D.A.R. who mounted a loud campaign in the 1940s to have all the signs leading to the George Washington Bridge over the Hudson River changed so as to read, “General George Washington Bridge.”
I must say, I’ve been quite critical of the President over his cabinet appointments, the “HCR” outcome, and the tax cuts for the rich. But with his gamble on letting the Senate repeal DADT, maybe it shows he is in this for the long-haul. Now if the tax cuts for the rich are really allowed to expire in 2 years, and we actually get a public option before the mandatory-private-insurance law goes into effect in 2014, I’ll have to admit that Obama has mostly redeemed himself, and maybe these intermediary measures were justified….
Some buy it
16. If he gets that done, he’s on Rushmore! nt Permalink
Some not so much
19. Obama IS Playing Chess.
Chess is a game where the Pawns are sacrificed to protect the Royalty.
Sucks when you are a pawn (member of the lower 98%). Permalink
But they have company
Vice President Joe Biden said today that he and President Obama will fight to end the “morally troubling” yet newly renewed tax cuts for rich Americans in the re-election year of 2012.
“The one target for us in two years is no longer extending the upper income tax credit for millionaires and billionaires,” Biden said on NBC’s Meet The Press. “And scaling back what we had to do to get the compromise, the estate tax for the very wealthy.”
“We’re coming back and going at it again,” Biden later added.
To the question “why not now?” one has the mind numbing answer
12. He’s thinking the economy will be better
Or, that’s what has to happen to go along with that. Permalink
13. I already fell for the ‘hopey/changey’, and even changed my screen name during
the name-change amnesty.
Fool me once, shame on you. Twice, shame on me. Permalink
What’s his name you ask? “Obamanaut” Not sure whether to laugh or cry.
Finally, 3 days later, Kuttner’s story on dismantling Social Security (outright) makes it to DU
Obama will likely unveil Social Security cuts in the State of the Union Address according to sources
Kuttner is attacked
14. I’ll believe it when I see it
Kuttner is a hack, and his “well-placed sources” is an obvious and pathetic dodge.
Politico is trying to get the so-called progressives all worked up again after yesterday’s victory. It’s easy enough to do, and the right wing plays this group like a fiddle. Permalink
and someone defines
50. “Hack” = liberal writer who doesn’t sufficiently slobber over Obama n/t Permalink
One sums up the rationalizations
47. President Obama will NOT be “cutting Social Security”.
He WILL be :
“Saving” Social Security (It doesn’t have to make sense)
“Taking an incremental step forward” (doesn’t have to make sense)
Passing “historic” legislation
“..Not letting the Perfect get in the way of The Good”
“Saving our children from the deficit”
“Reaching across the aisle and changing the tone in Washington”
“doing the best that can be expected”
“getting a HUGH WIN for the Democrats”
“Doing exactly what he promised” Permalink
As usual, it’s not believed (nor were the tax cuts at first) and this is one I keep for the files
Some good comments in there too.
Much of the White House’s interaction with liberal groups has taken place at a weekly Tuesday meeting at a downtown Washington hotel. The “common purpose” gatherings are closed-door sessions between top Obama aides and officials from dozens of left-leaning interest groups such as unions, youth voting groups, women’s organizations, gay rights advocates and civil rights activists. Attendees are required to keep all proceedings secret and off the record.
Some are asking if this is from the Onion. Others are more blunt
5. Awww…you mean your “new” friends the rich aren’t going
vote for you? No way!! You just gave them a few billion dollars in tax breaks and they STILL won’t like you? Shucks…guess you got to turn back to the purists and the sanctamonious crowd now for friends.
Go fuck yourself. Permalink
Wow! The rulles for banning sure have relaxed since the latest screwings. One asks when was the last time Obama ate a shit sandwich ans was told to like it.
Fantasy is spewed on comand and wins our DUdie
28. Being he’s half black, all the fucking time i’m sure…
every day he was a child from his “peers”
every day he was in a foreign school as an American
every day in the pit of the Illinois legislature
quite often in the senate
I don’t like the race card, but seriously dude? really?
he’s a half-black politician who grew up in Hawaii!
you really think his life has been EASY!?!?!
I will fight this man on so many of his EXECUTED policies, but really?
He’s had to eat a shit sandwich everyday for 30 years at least!
every day since he entered society!
No dad, white mom, living with gran, traveling…. do you honestly think he hasn’t had to work his fucking fingers off?! Permalink
yeah, I know. Voting present 130 times must have wrecked havok on his manicure!
Wait till they find out about net neutrality!
This concludes today’s edition
Come back on Friday for the next one
Old blog post reprinted threatening anyone thinking primarying Obama in Times union made it on DU
Some good comments
14. But gosh, doesn’t Obama benefit from having the pony purist lefties lambaste him?
Doesn’t it help him establish centrist cred? Permalinkv
Some amazing comments here
In a quick read of the article they talk about Obama taking in $500 million via the
internet — as I recall it was much closer to way over $800 million, closer to $900 million.
Obama then went back on his decision not to take corporate money.
PLUS Obama took in something like another $280,000 from DU members alone!!!
(If I recall that correctly?)
This last election cost $4 BILLION –
Note that for every $7 Republicans got, Democrats got $1 –
Seems to be a message there re “poo on your shoe”?
Possibly Democrats will have second thoughts about it — at least those who
aren’t millionaires and multi-millionaires, or looking to be?
Of course, much of this “internet money” was big donations laundered in small bills, but at least they got it about the future
L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-15-10 02:10 PM
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1. This article assumes Obama won’t change parties
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Wed Dec-15-10 02:21 PM
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12. Maybe we should pay him to change?
and the answe comes
18. He won’t.
He can be a much more effective servant of the PTB by keeping the D.
That way, he blocks access to the White House for any other (i.e. real) Dem.
AND he can implement puke policies while letting the public think it’s all the Democrats fault.
He won’t change parties and his REAL base wouldn’t let him. Permalink
I guess that now that the power grab is complete, one can get away with speaking the truth on DU. In the past, they booted people for far less.
Tis is very popular
with only one attemt to deflect
26. Greenwald is a clown
Wikileaks is not the press. Permalink
In spite of everything going on around them, loyalists still buy this
3. I hope all DU’ers take a moment to actually read the questions of this poll and others like it
The questions are loaded to get a pre-determined outcome and then they are used to beat Americans over the head in an effort to push the findings of the poll as fact.
ABC NEWS/WashPost Poll question 1
Are you in favor of this tax compromise or would you rather have a red hot iron poker slowly inserted into your anus?
The fact is that this and the WaPo/WSJ poll asked questions that insured a high approval result. Simply Google for the poll data and read the questions for yourself! Permalink
And some notes how they all came full circle
Those were the two biggest issues on our platform and the reason we got back into the White House.
Now all of a sudden Bush’s tax program is fair, and the war in Afghanistan is a just war and well worth escalating. Let’s keep spending billions upon billions on wars we can’t win. Makes a lot of sense.
What a difference a year or two makes. Permalink
It’s easy when you have no principles.
The bogus WaPo poll is intruduced thusly
And I can’t for the life of me tell is this answer is sarcastic or not
22. Obama = God!
And the sane people know it… Permalink
especially considering this one
0. Proud liberal here who has come to believe that the president is 100% right on this tax deal
In the short run, anger clouds judgment and reason. Upon deep thought and reflection, I have come to the conclusion that the president is absolutely right!! Permalink
Someone actually puts this thing in context
9. A couple things about this poll………
1. Gallup and McClatchy-Marist have the president at 42% and 46% respectively. That probably means that this poll is an anomaly.
2. If you accep this poll, then the public trust issue of 43/38 is almost a dead heat with the 3.5 MOE.
3. At this time in presidency, Carter was at 50%, in fact Carter was at 51% approval when he lost Reagan two years later.
4. Again, that 87% support among liberals is an anomaly only to this poll. Gallup has him at 69% with liberals and 79% with liberal Democrats. Permalink
Having just read that Obama will cut Social Security next, this was a bracing read
Don’t broad brush ALL liberals. We vary like the colors of the rainbow.
Let’s see how these people will defend the next betrayal coming down the pipe.
Someone even predicts
The GOP is about to take over the House.
But someone knows better
4. Doubt it, if Obama decides to capitulate more. Permalink
Already done, my friend. I feel I am looking at these schmucks from the future. Sorry, can’t be kinder, my survival is at stake and they are guilty.
They still don’t know about SOTU?Social Security yet, so they defend the tax cuts for the rich
A long lecture on how Obama made Rs “play ball” by giving them what they wanted
One cuts through the BS
6. If brilliance is ceding enough ground to force compromise, then you’re right
Perhaps Obama should promise to torture possible terrorists on American soil; then, the Republicans might let him close Guantanamo. Or maybe if he promises to nuke North Korea, the Republicans will let him leave Afghanistan. Permalink
and another view
15. Don’t forget Germany’s masterful victory in WWII
They had Eisenhower by the nads-really kicked his butt. Permalink
Although in all fairness, Germany did fight in that war.
Others think that
Sleep tight Mr. President.
Maybe the Walton’s grandchildren will allow my grandchildren to work in their fucking store…because THAT is the future you negotiated for them.
But whatever you fucking do…don’t be late for your parties! And I hope you take a double dose of cake.
Yup. There are no less that 20 Christmas parties at the White House this year.
On the news that the House bent to the sell-out
Still ignorant of the plans for Social Security
28. This marks the beginning of the end both Social Security and the
Democratic Party. Permalink
Someone attempts sarcasm
13. Maybe He’ll Veto It?
Nobody wants the tax cuts! Even certain rich people don’t want them! Obama really is the P**y President. And an asshole!
P.S.: The people you’ve tickled in a naughty way will still hate you cause you’re black and want you dead. Idiot! Permalink
Who would have thunk it from the man who campaigned on Blackwater being maligned?
It seems it’s no longer illegal on DU to compare Obama to W
1. The overwhelming theme of this administration seems to be ratification of almost every thing ruinous
and rotten junior foisted upon this nation. Permalink
And this morning, the news of Social Security finally makes it there
It’s a call to action from HuffPo
‘Tell the President: Stand up to the Hostage-Takers! Defend Social Security and Medicare.’
Not everyone is buying the framing
2. The Republicans will be blamed by Obama for his own acts, re: SS and Medicare. Permalink
3. Obama created and unleashed the Simpson Bowles Cat Food Commission by executive order
so nothing else that happens under his administration at this point should surprise us at all.
“Send a Message to the President”? Good one. Permalink
And the DUdie
Immediately after the mid term elections he looked like a sad, lost puppy lol…
But now with this tax deal, the speech in North Carolina, the fiery press meeting…it seems he’s getting that swag back. I expect him to hit a huge home run at the State of the Union. Its gonna be a big year for the Pres in 2011…
This concludes today’s DUdies
See you next Tuesday,
Seems Stockholm syndrome has became a theme as of late.
I still do not watch SNL – although after catching up on line this morning, this may change.
After being held hostage for three days, the effects of Stockholm syndrome took hold, he says. By the fourth day, it was too late. At that point, the conversion was complete and he could finally see that “the tax cuts for the wealthy aren’t a big problem. They’re the best part of the bill!”
He assured us that the rich would use the money to create jobs, “millions and millions of jobs.” After all, Rush Limbaugh himself said he’d “never been hired by a poor person.”
Funny as it is, SNL was not the first to hit this (and I am not even referring to Frank Rich’s recent Stockholm Syndrome piece)
There was a pretty good Borowitz Report
WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report) – In his latest effort to find common ground with Republicans in Congress, President Barack Obama said today that he was willing to agree that he is a Muslim.
“The American people do not want to see us fighting in Washington,” Mr. Obama told reporters at the White House. “They want to see us working together to improve their lives, and Allah willing, we will.”
and, joke aside, his Os, who missed all that post-partisanship in the campaign and the 130 “Present” votes are also wondering – seriously
I think it is time that we seriously consider the possibility that Obama is under a direct threat from the powerful forces that control this government – military contractors, big banks, multinationals. Nothing in his background – not his upbringing, his academic studies and achievements, his willingness to take his top-drawer legal education back to the poorer streets of Chicago, his legislative record, his record of striving and succeeding, his campaign rhetoric – NOTHING suggested that he would be so monumentally weak and capitulating.But his actions lately suggest that HE is a hostage. When he said the GOP were holding something hostage, I think he meant himself and his family. Is he under direct threat? Are his daughters and wife being threatened? Did the money men show him a film of the assassination of JFK from a different angle, as Bill Hicks suggested?
3. So maybe President Clinton is under a direct threat too because of the dual press conference. Maybe
the white house dog Bo! Maybe they’re gonna’ break all the white house china! Hostage my ass. Permalink
I guess that would mean the joke is – quite literally – on the Os.
My second startle came with this tweet
It’s another one of those moments when they get it (like “Our long nightmare…“)
Starting with the idea that Obama has all our e-mails. And he was just after missing the 3AM call in the morning
According to its timestamp, the e-mail was sent at 4:26 a.m.
“Hey Everyone,” read the first line of the president’s note, which at 27 megabytes proved too large for millions of Americans’ in-boxes.
“Anyway,” the e-mail continued.
A 150-page printout confirms that while Obama’s points are generally cogent in the first quarter of the message, the increasingly chaotic spacing, multiple spelling errors, and near total lack of commas rendered the later portions almost impossible to parse.
and ends with
“Yes we can!” the e-mail concluded. “Ugh, you know what? Forget it. Believe what you want. Yours, Barack.”
Someone seems to have been a fly on the wall….
I watched it on TV and Tweeter – and there were some beauties appearing on my page.
Podhoretz was feeling in hell -
jpodhoretz John PodhoretzSeriously. This is comedy Hiroshima.
The appearance of Yusuf Islam – now only Yusuf produced some great comments.
Harry Shearer wondered where his last name went.
I’ve seen video of that British TV segment abt Rushdie on YouTube. Stevens/Islam had it pulled down re: copyright claim. I wonder why.
Here’s the video of Stevens/Islam on Rushdie: http://is.gd/guDMB
I bet Yusuf hates being called Cat Stevens as much as I hate being called Anakin
It wasn’t a big shark but Jon Stewart jumped one just now with the “everybody on Thr cable is the same” naiveté
@littleleaf2 when did I say I loved Jon?
Salon Salon.comHas Jon Stewart jumped the shark?
tomtomorrow Tom Tomorrowby edgeoforeverThis is sounding like a college freshman stoner session. Dude if we just all remember we’re like human beings you know?
digby56 digbyThis might be useful if even one right winger gave a damn. Essentially he’s just telling the left to pipe down. They sure won’t.
Interesting Stewart and the White House echo the same critique of 24/7 news cycle. But isn’t that a function of blogs and online community?
Putting forth this idea: Obama wouldn’t be president without the 24/7 news cycle
chrislhayes Christopher Hayes
Sort of amazing how far the irony/earnestness pendulum has swung back towards irony after just 2 years.
jpodhoretz John PodhoretzTragic fact: Sanity really right about where it was before 11 this morning.