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It is not the first time we are hearing of the White House fall-back plan. We were told a few times last year
The White House measure appears designed to entice moderate Democrats and perhaps even Republicans into supporting a health care overhaul if legislative efforts in Congress fail or if they move too far to the left.
Now, bent on his reelection campaign, Obama finally pulled it out, ready to “dare” GOP with it.
Biden told the News Journal that the six-hour meeting “could be pure theater.”
“This could end up not being good,” Biden said in the interview. “But I know of no other way than to just keep pushing, saying, ‘Guys, OK, this is our idea. What’s your idea?’”
So that would explain surrendering ahead of time: Before the fall-back even getting on the table, a fall back to the fall-back has been discovered
Obama Readies a Fallback Health-Care Proposal
According to WSJ
would provide health insurance to perhaps 15 million Americans, about half what the comprehensive bill would cover, according to two people familiar with the planning.
t would do that by requiring insurance companies to allow people up to 26 years old to stay on their parents’ health plans, and by modestly expanding two federal-state health programs, Medicaid and the Children’s Health Insurance Program, one person said. The cost to the federal government would be about one-fourth the price tag for the broader effort, which the White House has said would cost about $950 billion over 10 years.
The article doesn’t mention the mandates, so I will assume they are still in (or else, I would be happy with this fallback)
B0bots are understandably unhappy So much so, one actually wrote
6. Obama has turned out to be a big fat worthless fucking zero in a suit. He makes
Which if you consider the obsessive, virulent CDS there, is something!
From the White House mouthpiece comes the denial in the propaganda outlet
White House Denies Report Obama Is Considering Scaled-Back Reform Plan
Administration officials with knowledge of current health care negotiations pushed back Wednesday evening against a report that the White House is readying a paired-down (sic) version of reform should the current proposal fail to win sufficient congressional support
Of course, they can’t say WSJ made up the story, so they contradict themselves by admitting
“This proposal was developed because the president wanted to know what the impact would be if he had to go small post-Massachusetts [Senate race]. It’s not where we are,” the official said.
“As you can tell from covering the news this week,” the official added, “this is not the proposal we’re pursuing.”
In other words: “As you can tell from our propaganda news we are putting plan “A” publicly, so stop saying that.
Even B0bots smell the BS on that one
I call bullshit on the article..who besides freepers
I smell a rat.
and
8. Unfortunately, this Huff Post article makes no sense.
As numerous people have already posted, if you’ve developed a worst-case scenario fall back option, you have no choice but to keep it secret. Now the whole country knows that Obama has a plan-B, even if he’s supposedly still pushing for the original proposal.
I like Obama, but he’s repeatedly shown that he’s too naive and weak-willed to be a good president. I’m hoping he’ll eventually wise up and grow a spine.
Others of course are still trying to believe.
This small plan also rings a bell. Something I read in Milbank’s piece on Rahm Emanuel
Obama’s greatest mistake was failing to listen to Emanuel on health care. Early on, Emanuel argued for a smaller bill with popular items, such as expanding health coverage for children and young adults, that could win some Republican support. He opposed the public option as a needless distraction.
And here it is again! Seems like Rahm wasn’t leaving, just kicking some more a* as I expected…
Me, I recall those days when everyone was calling Obama a brilliant politician event though he barely made it past the finish line with all the money, media and RNC pushing him.
A brilliant politician would have started with single payer – even if he didn’t wanted it. And negotiated it down to what he wanted.
Obama still goes with the “send me anything to sign called healthcare and I’ll declare victory”
After all, it’s only for campaign rhetoric anyway.
let’s give a B0bot the last word:
31. Our worthless empty-suit president milquetoast strikes again!
But what does it say of those who were taken in?
Update
Single payer advocates were excluded from the bipartisan theater
Although the physicians’ group requested an invitation to Thursday’s summit at Blair House, no reply from the White House has been forthcoming, Young said. The group also noted: “Similarly, requests from Reps. Dennis Kucinich of Ohio, Anthony Weiner of New York and Peter Welch of Vermont that single-payer advocates be included in the meeting have apparently gone unanswered.”
As for the real reason Public Option has been ditched (h/t kpete in B0botland) is not because they don’t have the voters but- Obama sold that to hospital lobbyists back in August
Several hospital lobbyists involved in the White House deals said it was understood as a condition of their support that the final legislation would not include a government-run health plan paying Medicare rates — generally 80 percent of private sector rates — or controlled by the secretary of health and human services.
“We have an agreement with the White House that I’m very confident will be seen all the way through conference,”
So, there
Update
So much for the White House denial earlier
Hoyer: Obama open to scaled-down bill
President Barack Obama is open to passing a scaled-back healthcare bill if the current, more comprehensive plan fails, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said Thursday…
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Stars and Stripes notes the hallmark war toll and from their headline I fnd out that the stupid Bush marketing name was never changed
and it reads painfully accurate now
In Moonie Times, Hillary makes a headline and Bernake is gunning for our Social Security again
as LA Times tells us that he’ll postpone cuts in deficit as the growth so far is unsustainable
WaPo informs us on another Obama cave-in, this time on consumer protection.
On the bright side, Maryland will recognize gay marriages from other states.
Another spectacular cave-in is barely visible in the “What’s News” section of WSJ”: Obama has a scaled back HCR - before even trying out the “daring one”
President Barack Obama will use a bipartisan summit Thursday to push for sweeping health-care legislation, but if that fails to generate enough support the White House has prepared the outlines of a more modest plan.
His leading alternate approach would provide health insurance to perhaps 15 million Americans, about half what the comprehensive bill would cover, according to two people familiar with the planning.
Cave-in nothwithstanding, if this one doesn’t have mandates, I could cheer for it
It would do that by requiring insurance companies to allow people up to 26 years old to stay on their parents’ health plans, and by modestly expanding two federal-state health programs, Medicaid and the Children’s Health Insurance Program
In NY, the Daily News got back to its assigned job of attacking the Governor (anything, to see what sticks)
while NY Post follows up the Katrina aid investigation
and AM-NY tells us about new ways MTA will screw us – subways were actually safe for some years now
I love my daughter’s school! It’s a good public school in the city – middle and high school together which attracts the best and the brightest from all of the city.
Once a week, they have Town Meetings – a spirited event event with content created in large part by the students with video, music and some school business thrown in the middle. There are competitions, love connections and other fun features. Today there were two: a great “teacher impressions” competition between students and teachers and a video competition.
Beyonce vs. Lady Gaga
When the voting by acclaim started, the middle school kids – seated in the middle went nuts for Lady Gaga, while High schoolers behind me started to boo (much as during the video they were singing the lyrics). The interesting part came when a very tall, statuesque girl stood up, towering above me and pointed her finger in a “J’accuse” style at the middle row yelling: “You’re racist” several times. She was laughing as she was screaming, but her voice was almost covering the cheering from the younger kids.
The one sore spot in an otherwise great event at my kid’s school.
As the screams were melting my brain (I was in the middle of all this) I asked myself: “when did racism accusations became a joke”? Once my brain recovered, I remembered: during the “post-racial” election.
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Attention all B0bots – break your piggy banks now!
You didn’t really think that all the speechifying around the country was for healthcare, jobs bill or some other public policy? \
Nah, Obama is doing what he does best, campaigning for himself. Really.
Obama 2012 operation is already buzzing in Chicago
The planning for now consists entirely of private conversations, with Obama aides at all levels indulging occasionally in closed-door 2012 discussions while focusing ferociously on the midterm elections and health care reform, the Democratic sources said.
That explains the last push for healthcare, see?
On update, it was noted by others as well
, Obama would manage to betray many politically vulnerable members of his own party, proving himself a party leader of exceptional selfishness. Because the legacy of his presidency is at stake, or because of his pride, or because he is ideologically committed to an expanded public role in health care, Obama is pressuring Democratic members to join a suicide pact. When a president doesn’t care about his party, his party eventually ceases to care about him.
And all the henchmen are lined up and they even think they’ll have the benefit of
the large machine he has built at the DNC, including Organizing for America, the successor to his campaign grassroots operation.
OFA is now a DNC project with staff in all 50 states, and has worked to keep Obama’s army active through engagement on health care and other issues.
You know, the f*ing retards
Interestingly, the article is justifying this early campaining by comparing him to his predecessors, but it turns out
President Bill Clinton opened his second presidential campaign in the March after his first midterm congressional elections, and President George W. Bush opened Bush-Cheney ’04 a month later in the political cycle.
In other words, over a year later. But then again, it’s not like Obama has anything better to do with his time. Governing? What governing? It’s campaigning time, baby! (you didn’t take seriously that
“I’d rather be a really good one-term president than a mediocre two-term president”
thinghy, did you? Because if it meant anything, he would maybe concentrate on that one term now..
The only thing left to do now is find a theme
The themes for Obama’s campaign are not yet chosen, but a top adviser said not to expect a radical surprise: “He knows who he is.
We know “change” is out as right now “reform is the new change”
Obama’s all set to unveil a new election-year strategy, one of “reform,” which from now on is different from “change.” Politico’s reporting that the scaled-back language “represents a downsizing from the heady days just a year ago when he hoped to rack up legislative achievements of a scope not seen since the Great Society triumphs of President Lyndon Johnson.”
Me thinks the whole race baiting will be a bit harder to use now. As well as the skinny kid with a funny name of a single mother. Or the outsider coming to clean Washington. But they’ll think of something. After all, a recent headline about his healthcare bill captures Obama perfectly
Obama health ‘plan’ too vague to analyze
Or as his handlers say: he knows who he is: whomever you want him to be
See for instance his attitude towards Wall Street
President Obama has sought to strike a balance, calling outsize Wall Street bonuses “shameful” and “obscene” while also assuring business executives that he does not “begrudge people success or wealth.”
We’ll have to see if the blank slate works the second time around
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NY Times has two conflicting headlines: one is about healthare and makes people think bipartisan deals are in the making. The other, on gun control – states relax their laws to spite Obama who might – just might – tighten it – nice going
Washington Post brings that bipartisan masterpiece – the war and it’s toll – over 1000 in Afghanistan
Also, having squeezed all it could from Democrats, Wall Street is now preparing to install Republicans. Voters need not apply.
The new campaign contributions data underscore the political quandary facing Democrats, who want Wall Street donations to help fend off a GOP resurgence in congressional elections this fall but hope to distance themselves from an industry vilified by the public as greedy and ungrateful. President Obama has sought to strike a balance, calling outsize Wall Street bonuses “shameful” and “obscene” while also assuring business executives that he does not “begrudge people success or wealth.”
Does anyone else think that “I hate you – I love you” is maybe not the best way of “striking balance”?
Wall Street Journal chronicles other disasters they and their chosen brought to us
while LA Times brings us the most repulsive “bipartisan news” yet: a civilized discussion between abortion friends and foes. I will trust media reporting on it when the headline will be about “choice” instead.
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