September 5, 2008...5:41 pm

Obama: Whaaa! she attacked me! Why can’t I attack her?

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After having to backpedal on the sexist attacks, Obama started to show his pissy self:

He said he assumes Palin “wants to be treated same way guys want to be treated, which means their records are under scrutiny. I’ve been through this for 19 months. She’s been through it, what four days?”

I assume that the new talking point by his surrogates in the media “she is hiding” stems from that pissy fit

same way guys want to be treated?

Do I detect here a note of “Bitches always have it easy”?

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Woah! How many people attacked your children in those 19 months? And for that matter how many people even mention the Rezko trial going on throughout your primary? You think you had it bad?

That’s rich!

The article points that

The Obama campaign was clearly on the defensive today, acknowledging how appealing Palin came across

Palin nearly hit Obama’s record 38.4 million viewers for his Denver acceptance speech. The Nielsen ratings show she drew 37.2 million viewers, despite being shown on six networks to Obama’s 10.

Seems like it’s also time for that card again.

It has been, what, 2 whole weeks since we heard this one? Today, he was at it again:

he’s got funny name,’ You know, ‘we’re not sure about him,’” Obama continued. “And that’s what the Republicans, when they say, ‘This isn’t about issues, it’s about personalities,’ what they’re really saying is, ‘We’re going to try to scare people about Barack. So we’re going to say that you know, maybe he’s got Muslim connections or we’re going to say that, you know, he hangs out with radicals or he’s not patriotic.’

I have never heard the Muslim/funny name one, but I sure hope the McCain campaign bring Ayers to the forefront. Hving known the Oborg I can only say: You are not scared enough!

But it wasn’t the attacks that turned people off you, Obama. it was the crotch sniffing orgy your  supporters and surrogates indulged this week. That scared people,more than your name and Ayers even could.

Plus McCain will use Obama’s rhetoric against him

Instead of trying to tear down Obama’s aspirational words, which people like, McCain and company want to push over the top the notion that Obama is a celebrity speaker in a league of his own.

McCain’s folks are working it so people will then say, “OK . . . and?”

To quote Maddie Joan at Capital Hill

Apparently Obama is bringing a baby rattle and his security blanket to a knife-fight.

37 Comments

  • sweetie had to reply to credit card Joes request to get on the love train…

    Dear “Credit Card” Joe Biden

    Oh my I am so indignant that the republicans are telling the truth about our democratic nominee’s. John McCain is no George Bush. If John McCain was another George Bush why did John Kerry ask him to be his running mate in 2004? Sorry you can try to have it both ways but who do you think you are? Barak Obama?

    Also how can you say I am supporting the Obama for AmeriKa movement? Are you smoking what Senator Obama, Howard Dean, and Donna (Karl Rove is my Mentor) Brazile are smoking? Hey its time you guys lay off the crack and the K and the E and the Tina!

    Just admit you are losers and donate all your campaign contributions to feed the children! That I might respect. Oh and Bow OUT gracefully and let Hillary Run.

    Michael P Varvel
    Co-Chair Committee to Draft Hillary Clinton for President 2012
    Co-Chair of the voting rights sub-committee/ Committee to Draft Hillary Clinton for President 2012
    Member of the sub-committee on reform of the RBC and Nomination Process/ Committee to Draft Hillary Clinton for President 2012

    hope you like it!

    fuzzybeargville

  • LOVE IT!
    Forgot the one about Kerry – it must be why he is so silent these days…. ;-)

  • Arabella Trefoil

    I can name that tune in three notes “Bitches have it easier.”

    Great post. thanks.

  • Obama really has his underpants in a twist and it ain’t pretty. He had to send out the women folk to fight his battles for him and if he wants to talk about being vetted…let the vetting begin! I was watching CNN for a few minutes until the puke started coming into my mouth, and Blitzer was going on and on about everything Sarah Palin ever did in her life and how he had to be sure she was properly vetted by the media. If they had gone into that much detail in Obama’s life during the Primary’s, Obama would not have only lost this bid, but he might have lost the next US Senate race he would be in.

    Credit Card Joe doesn’t have much to say, I guess…he’s been very quiet. He might be sleeping off the booze from the Convention.

  • According to a poster on NQ. Barack Obama and the DNC were served papers yesterday in the lawsuit filed in Philadelphia Federal Court against Obama’s ineligibility to run for president due to the fact that he is NOT a natural born citizen of the United States. Go to the blog America’s Rights and click on the second or third paragraph.

  • What really scares people about Barack is that he is an incompetent egotist who hides behind his thugs and his minions in the media. This is a world leader? What scares BO about Governor Palin is that she is gutsy, accomplished and authentic. She’s already clocked him and in ‘what 4 days?’!

  • I love how Palin is challenge to Obama directly, thus Joey B. is marginalized and irrelevant.

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  • CKA in Red State USA

    Community ogranizer Obama suggests that Gov. Palin “wants to be treated same way guys want to be treated, which means their records are under scrutiny. I’ve been through this for 19 months. She’s been through it, what four days?”?

    He’s been through exactly what? He’s shared no records to be scrutinized and has had the longest period of non-vetting by his own party and the misnamed MSM in contemporary political history?

    So if he’s suggesting that she should the same free ride he’s gotten forever, that’s gracious.

    But I’m just guessing here, but I’d bet the governor doesn’t really care whether she’ s treated like of the guys or not. She’s faced tougher men–real men–before. And prevailed.

    For sure, she’ s got nothing to be concerned about with Barack Obama, or whatever his real name is–he, the first potential woman president in the U.S.

    But he won’t even have that dubious distinction, come Election Day.

  • But I thought no meant yes. Yeah, Barry is that guy.

    McCain/Palin 08

    Hillary 2012

  • This lawsuit will end Obama as a candidate:

    http://www.americasright.com/2008/09/berg-v-obama-update-friday-september-5.html

    It alleges that Obama was born in Kenya and because his father wasn’t American and his mother was only 18, he doesn’t qualify as a natural born citizen. Only his “online” birth certificate is available, verified by Factcheck (connected to Annenberg, so not exactly credible). A couple hospitals in Honolulu have been mentioned as birthplaces, but no records. Looks like his mother returned to Honolulu when he was about 4 days old and registered him then.

    The MSM is lazy, scared, or both — don’t want public to realize that no one properly vetted Obama.

    And where’s the record he ever registered for Selective Service?? Not registering doesn’t disqualify him for president, but he should have — unless he wasn’t a citizen.

  • John McCain was born in the Canal Zone, a child of American citizens. He was declared eligible to be President. Since Barack Obama’s mother is an American citizen, he, too, is an American citizen, whether he was born in Kenya or the United States, and whether she was 18 or 45 or 9. Natural-born means US citizen from birth (i.e., not a naturalized citizen). When the court throws the suit out, I hope they will award attorney’s fees to Obama for having to respond to such a ludicrous charge.

    BTW, claiming that Obama isn’t “American” doesn’t serve your claim that you aren’t racists. Better to stick to the sexist/elitist argument. But, with hatred as great as yours, I guess ANYTHING will do.

  • Dear Michael P Varvel, co-chairman of the ….

    Rationalize if you must, but if you researched John McCain’s positions in the campaign, you’d see W. But if you are a Hillary supporter planning to vote for McCain out of anger, maybe ignorance works best. Rationality definitely won’t work.

    I’m not sure whether Kerry or McCain made the first contact. I wouldn’t have liked the pick, but I can understand the politics behind it. Except for the present administration, the President usually determines policy, so I still would have voted for Kerry if it had happened.

    Edgeoforever
    “rationality wouldn’t work” – Bien sure – any one not planning to vote for teh Precious is irrational. Or typical white person – ignorant and racist. Your plea for our votes has been duly noted

  • NYS -

    I guess you forgot about the Rev. Wright brouhaha, the attacks on Michelle (not all of which were based on poorly chosen words), and all the baseless character assassination still being posted here (Ayers, Rezko, madrasa, Kenya, etc., etc.). I hate the attacks on Palin’s motherhood and kids. While your anger may have blinded you to it, Obama unequivocally rejected attacks on her family; even a cynic like you can acknowledge that he would see no upside to these attacks and oppose them. Palin’s staff acknowledged that neither Obama or Biden were among the Obama/Biden Dems who made the sexist remarks. The R’s, however, want to exploit your anger. They’d like you to think that issues of Palin’s abuse of power and limited experience (which John McCain and Hillary, not Obama, claimed was essential) are really sexist attacks.

  • Konservo – VP candidates traditionally serve as attack dogs, because to attack the other candidate is seen as unpresidential.

    Do you, too, have contempt for community organizers? I can understand why the Republicans do; they think compassion for the homeless and jobless is for losers. But I thought Hillary fought for the working people? This job, it would seem, would be admired here.

  • Annie Em –

    Obama graduated from Columbia, Harvard Law School (president of the Law Review), was a community organizer, was elected to the Illinois Senate, taught constitutional law at Chicago (almost as good a law school as Harvard), was elected to the US Senate, and won the Democratic nomination, and he’s incompetent? WHOA! Just who is competent, then?

    Edgeoforever – and which of these positions give him executive experience again?

  • Mr. Varvel,

    I forgot to address your characterization of Donna Brazile as like Karl Rove. Sorry she didn’t agree with your position. Sadly, she had to enforce the rules. Except for the fact that she is involved in politics, and is pretty damn smart, though, she has nothing in common with Rove. Push polls? No. Outing spies? No. Attack ads? No.

  • K
    You got a little greedy, posting your talking points all over the place. They hushed Wright pretty fast. There’s more to that story. Michelle campaigned for him and was hardly touched for the horrible things she said. Donna Brazille is a buddy of Karl Rove – that’s a fact

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  • The real difference between Karl Rove and Donna Brazile is that Rove is successful. Brazile has had two failed campaigns in a row and is going for a third. Let’’s hope the Dem RULZ include a three-strikes-and-you’re-out clause.

  • Konservo – VP candidates traditionally serve as attack dogs, because to attack the other candidate is seen as unpresidential.

    Do you, too, have contempt for community organizers? I can understand why the Republicans do; they think compassion for the homeless and jobless is for losers. But I thought Hillary fought for the working people? This job, it would seem, would be admired here.

    1) That’s not the point. The point is Joe What’s-’is-name is irrelevant and dull and Obama only has one thing going for him: his ability to invigorate people with a telepromptered speech. Maverick made a wise choice by picking Sarah Palin, a governor with more executive experience than Obama and a speaker who doesn’t need a teleprompter and does not consider herself a deity. Oh, and Palin isn’t really attacking Obama, she’s merely poking fun at him. I haven’t heard her mention anything about Rev. Wright, Rezko or Ayers, have you?

    2) I have nothing against community organizers per se. Just as I have nothing against the guy who squirts the sour cream from a bottle at Taco Bell. Apparently, though, Obama is the one who thinks community organization is an exercise in futility.

  • edgeoforever – Rather than dismiss my comments as “talking points,” why not address the substance?

    Let me address your comments:

    (1) Edgeoforever – and which of these positions give him executive experience again?

    Annie Em didn’t say he lacked administrative experience, she said he was incompetent. I addressed her comment. Obama’s resume illustrates Obma’s extreme competence. But let’s address yours. First, though, one aside: Who was it you supported in the primaries? Governor Huckabee? Mayor Giuliani? Mittens? Wait, it was Hillary, wasn’t it? You picked her because of her extensive executive experience, no doubt. But since you raise this argument now, you must have found a new hero, Sarah Palin, right? So, you supported Hillary, but now you support Sarah Palin. Hmmm. I can think of two things they have in common, and they aren’t policies, education, experience, or sophistication. I could easily have supported Hillary in the generals had she won the nomination. I could never vote for Sarah Palin. I have a problem with political leaders who believe they are doing the Lord’s bidding because, usually, their belief in what the Lord wants trumps what the people want. IMHO, book banning and religious wars are not so good. But back to the issue of executive experience. As a partner in the law firm, as a professor, as a US Senator, and as a candidate, Obama has managed people, work and money. Did he review a contract for trash collection, as a Mayor of a small town might (that is, if her town hadn’t hired and administrator to handle such mundane duties for her)? No. But Presidents don’t negotiate trash collection contracts. Did he oversee State agencies that collect taxes, distribute food stamps, etc. No. But Presidents don’t oversee the day-to-day operation of agencies, either. The Presidency is unlike any other office. Hillary had it almost right when she said she’d be ready from Day One, because she alone had experienced life in the White House. Just not as the one responsible for the job. Bill was a Governor for ten years, yet he wasn’t ready on day one. He and his young staff needed time to settle in to office. And while I don’t think Bill reached his potential, and made some serious mistakes, I think he was a pretty good President.

    (2) They hushed Wright pretty fast. There’s more to that story.

    No, they didn’t. The media was preoccupied with it for over a month. How much time did they spend on Hagee? A day or two? John McCain has gladly accepted the endorsement of religious leaders who claimed God used Katrina to destroy sinful New Orleans. Yes, McCain said the statements were absurd. As Obama did for Wright. There is no substance here.

    (3) “Michelle was barely touched for the horrible things she said.” I guess we have a different opinion about things Michelle Obama said. I’m not proud of America now, either. We attacked a country that posed no threat to us out of misplaced anger against Afghanis, Saudis and Yemenis. We have tortured people. We have allowed a President to usurp fundamental rights out of fear. Yes, Michelle campaigns for Barack. Sarah has now trotted her family out as confirmation of her “family values.” They even cleaned Levi up and flew him out for the convention. But, as I said, personal attacks on family members are wrong. Obama also said it was wrong, and was angry when asked about it. It isn’t reasonable to conflate the worst “supporters” with the candidates. Hillary has disavowed you, for instance.

    (4) Donna Brazille is a buddy of Karl Rove – that’s a fact.

    Um, yeah. Did you read the article? From what I’ve read, Rove is an intelligent, well-read personable guy. He just plays dirty politics. Donna Brazile doesn’t do what Karl Rove does.

    Finally, I didn’t say it was ignorant not to vote for Obama. I said it was ignorant to claim McCain wasn’t like Bush, because anyone who made a comparison would see that McCain has adopted Bush’s policies. I didn’t say it was irrational not to support Obama. I said it was irrational for a Hillary supporter to support McCain. What was it you liked about Hillary again? And I didn’t say it was racist not to vote for Obama. I said claiming Obama wasn’t American smells like racism, because it is patently false. But maybe that isn’t it. Back when we were bashing the French, Republicans claimed Kerry was French, and it worked. Maybe I should have written xenophobia. You can vote for whoever you want. If you think mercurial man, John McCain, will exercise better judgment under pressure and will better protect the things you value, vote for him. But all I see here is ANGER, fictions and absurdities. Every time a new right wing internet urban myth about Obama surfaces, this place turns electric. The things you write, though, don’t fully explain your anger. Obama is sexist? So you’re going to vote for McCain? Really? Have you forgotten McCain’s joke about Chelsea, Hillary and Janet Reno? OMG.

  • Uhmm, K? Where did edgeofforever say she supports Palin?

    I suspect she calls your entries talking points because that’s what they are–and you unload them reflexively , even if they’re not appropriate responses to what’s been said.

    Did you make your post quota for the day?

  • I think we’ll just have to disagree about Obama’s skills. Way back when Obama started his campaign, he presented himself as a thoughtful, honest wonk. In an article in Time magazine, the author wondered if Obama was too honest about America’s current circumstances to win. The evidence was that Time magazine was right. His campaign did not take off. People loved the message of hope, bipartisanship , a purple America, that he included in the speech he gave at the convention. I liked thoughtful and brutally honest, but the crowds did not. So the campaign changed, and the people signed on. They didn’t want experienced, dull Joe Biden. They wanted excitement, just like you.

    Maybe Sarah Palin doesn’t consider herself a deity (I don’t think Obama does, either, but whatever), but she does believe that she is doing the Lord’s work, just like W, and that scares me more. Please see my response to edgeoforever regarding “executive experience.” No, she hasn’t raised Ayers, Rezko or Wright, which is good, because it’s all nonsense. Just to be clear, let me rephrase my comment.
    VP candidates traditionally challenge the competency of the opposing Presidential candidate, because to challenge the competency of the other candidate is seen as unpresidential. And, no, she wasn’t merely poking fun at him. She was trying to discredit him. To be successful, her audience had to hold a poor opinion of community organizers (they did). Obama doesn’t offer community organizing as evidence of administrative experience, he offers it as evidence of his commitment to social welfare, which it is. Do you think that squirting sour cream at Taco Bell shows the same commitment to social welfare as working as a community organizer? I read the article you referenced. What was your point? I agree with Obama that change occurs faster through politics. I respect him for challenging the orthodoxy of the Alinsky model of community organizing. Does that mean there is something wrong with community organizing, that there shouldn’t be people who fight for the removal of asbestos from tenements, and toilet repair? Obama is capable of creating change through politics. Most people aren’t.

    p.s., Palin gave a speech someone else wrote, and did use a teleprompter. She had THREE DAYS to pratice it. McCain’s campaign claimed she adlibbed when the teleprompter stuttered. I guess her experience as a television sports reporter paid off.

  • okasha skatsi – only one of the candidates claims executive experience, and she made that claim in the speech Annie Em referenced. Annie Em wrote Obama was incompetent, which is absurd. I addressed Annie Em’s comment. Neither post addressed executive experience, and executive experience was irrelevant to either post, but edgeoforever raised it anyway. So, I’m stuck answering that, and stuck trying to figure out why it mattered. If Obama is “bad” because he doesn’t have “executive experience,” who would be a better choice, and why? At least I’m capable of addressing the points made in the posts and constructing a relevant argument. But, I’m always looking for ways to improve my writing. Rather than dismissing my posts as talking points, offer a critique, show me where my claims are irrelevant, my facts wrong. Use your brain. Start with my post to Varvel about John McCain. List McCain’s positions on taxes, Iraq, Iran, supreme court justices, government regulation, endangered species protection, etc., and explain to me how this “change agent” will shake up Washington. Do the work Varvel didn’t do. He claimed McCain couldn’t be like W because 5 years ago, Kerry talked to McCain, or vice versa, about the vice presidency. I’m sorry, this doesn’t make sense.

    My post quota? Hey, if someone wanted to pay me for all the time I wasted expressing my own opinion here, I’d love it.

  • When cornered, divert. That’s a standard tactic for you guys.

    K, you still haven’t shown where edgeofforever supports Palin. Since that was your kick-off point, presumably the same one that triggered your talking-point dump, I think you should establish that first. Prove that you’re actually listening to the people you’re trying to–what? persuade? show yourself superior to? inform?

    You know, I think that when the elections post-mortems start on November 5, one of the questions is going to be how badly you band of blogger boyz–not just the crazy ones like your colleague khalez up-page–actually damaged Obama. My guess is that the answer is going to be “significantly.”

  • okasha skatsi – I’m sorry, I don’t know how to make it any more plain for you. Did you read my posts? I explained why I thought edgeofforever supported Palin. Executive experience is one criterion a voter could use to pick a candidate. Obama has not held a managerial job in government, and has not based his campaign on executive experience. But who has? A lot of people, but only one person has made that argument in the past week, and that is Palin. Annie Em apparently supports Palin – she liked it that Palin “cleaned Obama’s clock.” But Annie Em didn’t raise the issue of executive experience, she just called Obama an incompetent egotist. Maybe you use code words here. When Annie Em wrote “incompetent egotist,” did she mean “Obama doesn’t have executive experience”? If so, I apologize. Otherwise, why did edgeofforever raise the question about executive experience in response to my post? Because she raised the issue, I assumed that “executive experience” is important to edgeoforever. If not, why raise the issue? And if so, who would be a better choice because of that executive experience? Answering questions is easier when you have context. I am at a loss. All I know about what you think is what you write. But if my assumption troubles you, or troubles edgeoforever, I apologize. Skip it and move on.

    I must admit, I know this isn’t a site where people come to discuss issues. You all come here to vent your hatred of Obama, of sexism, of party politics. Maybe I should not expect you to respond to arguments (and I don’t mean arguments in that way that breaks up relationships, I mean assembling a set of facts, logical statements and opinions to support a position). Every day, I am asked to defend the statements I make, and I do the best I can. Is the problem that we have fundamentally different ways about talking about issues? Do you not trust words? I mean this most sincerely, please, please, help me understand how to talk to you. I don’t understand your posts at all, but I’d like to. And thank you for not labeling me a crazy. OK, so I’m responsible for the demise of the Democratic Party and Obama’s certain loss.

  • okasha skatsi – Regarding blogger boyz: Back in the primaries, Hillary supporters would often post about Obama at Huff Post using phrases like “empty suit,” “obamabots” and “kumbayah” (I heard that in caucus, as well) and seemingly not understand how offensive it was. I am offended by posts here challenging Obama’s status as an “American,” and that, and the post calling Obama “incompetent,” set me off last night. I would submit to you that posts from all sides caused the polarization. To me, in the last two election cycles, I believe we have witnessed both the benefits and detriments of direct citizen participation in politics through the “internets.” Of course, since it was the Democrats, it was ugly and in public.

  • K

    You are nearly as long winded as Obama is.

    He IS and incompetent egotist. He has never produced one piece of evidence that he has done anything of value. He spent his time in Chicago undercutting people who helped him just to further his own ambitions. (Remember Alice Palmer ?)

    As for his being a natural born citizen – perhaps that will all be settled during the lawsuit in Philadelphia. Frankly, I don’t care if he is Indonesian, African, Hawaiian or whaatever his real name is, Barry Dunham, Barry Soretoro, or Barack Obama, he is still a big phoney who was never vetted and before this is over a lot of people are going to wind up with egg on their faces.

    Now go write another tome – we are sick of the ones you have already presented.

  • Well, K, if you want to know what edgeofforever thinks about Palin, you might just ask her instead of simply decanting your talking points on the basis of your assumptions. Fact is, she’s said here and elsewhere that she doesn’t support McCain/Palin. A little research on the blog would have made that clear.

    Your widdle peelings got a’ hurt over “empty suit?” Oh my goodness, what a tender little prince you are. Make sure the butler finds that nasty pea under the twenty mattresses before you go night-night. Hillary supporters have seen and heard their candidate called “bitch,” “whore,” “fucking whore” “cunt” “witch,” “castrator,” “would-be assassin,” and more. The two things just don’t compare. Now that same filth is being thrown at another woman who threatens Teh Precious’ ambitions. I don’t have to support Palin to be disgusted with Obama and his minions. Working eyes and ears are all it takes.

  • For the record K, I have been a Democrat for over 35 years, that is I was, until this dirty primary season. I am now an Independent. That was harder for me to do than you might think but I could not bear the thought of belonging to what has become the “new” Democratic Party.

  • lee M. – Whatever it takes, then, right?

  • I saw the post by Khalez. You know that Khalez doesn’t really support Obama, don’t you?

  • You know the fellow, do you, K? Well, I guess we’ll just have to take your word for it since he’s a buddy of yours.

    Or are you mind reading again? Sorry, Kreskin, you were wrong about Edge. No confidence in your psi abilities here.

    Fact is, I don’t know whether the guy is or is not an Obama supporter. He sounds, however, just like a good many of BO’s Boyz who have made threats against Hillary supporters, left messages on their phones, showed up at their doors, and attempted other forms of intimidation. So until BO gets his JD’s under control, he bears the burden of their bad behavior, even if there’s an occasional ringer in the bunch.

  • okasha skatsi – nope, don’t know him. somehow, though, don’t expect to see “Death to America” in the post from a real Obama supporter. But who knows? I have no reason to doubt your claim of threats and intimidation. While people argued passionately at my caucus, I didn’t witness any threats or intimidation. The language in Khalez’ post, and the epithets you listed, are repulsive. Why do you blame B.O. for it? Because it is done in his name? Or do you have real evidence that his campaign sanctioned it? How do you control 1,000
    people (or 10,000) when ~ 18 million people supported you?

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