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belongs to NY Shooter at Talk Left
Having forged a cadre of supporters consisting of uneducated students, guilt ridden faux liberals, understandably proud A.A’s, and fanned the number of Hillary Haters; He then got the endorsements of the biggest group of cynical losers and insiders, each with their own private agenda of how they’re going to use this neophyte, he’s now the prisoner in the prison of his own making
Finally a respectful informative article about us
Murphy ia amply quoted – who she is, what we’re about and the responses to our letters are mentioned:
The hostile and sometimes threatening emails these Democrats have received back from DNC officials have been posted at the blog of Puma PAC.
at the reaction from DNC officials. She says, “Sure. That’s why I posted them.” She heard of Democrats receiving such emails from Donna Brazile and others, but she says, “I thought they were hoaxes.” Then she saw them and was stunned. “These were to ‘Evie in Florida’. Voters.” She was taken aback by the tone. She says these “get over it” emails came from people “who were elected.”
Susan Estritch adds to the mix
There are stories kicking around about how African-Americans in at least two states (South Carolina and New York itself) who supported Hillary Clinton ended up with primary opponents in their own races for re-election to punish them for being pro-Clinton. This is not the way to win. There are stories kicking around that the reason (or one of them) that the highly effective Hillraisers are not raising the kind of money for Obama that they raised for Clinton is because they have been told that no matter what they do, they will never be the “equal” of the Obama fundraisers.
Good quotes from many PUMAS are included
Shanon from Maryland, another Puma member who donated to Hillary and voted Democratic in five straight past elections won’t vote for Obama, listing his lack of experience, qualifications and track record among her concerns. She says, “I will vote McCain, third-party, stay home or write Hillary Clinton in. At this point, Ichabod Crane is looking better than the choices I have. But make no mistake, I have a choice.”
Love it! After musing over denver possibilities and aftermath, the article adds a new twist at the end:
And what’s more, should word get out that Obama’s operation bears an uncanny resemblance to heavy-handed Chicago pols and Democratic insiders of years gone by (or to the vindictive Richard Nixon), people might question whether he really represents the coming of the New Politics.
Instead, they might suspect all the talk of inclusiveness, bottom-up organizing and unity is just that — talk. Hillary Clinton had a phrase her supporters no doubt recall: “just words.”
Interesting read.
And for counterpoint – a clueless article
Call it delusional, even fanatical. But a growing Web-based movement of Sen. Hillary Clinton supporters is pressing to have Clinton’s name “placed in nomination” at the Democratic convention in Denver later this month. Some are hoping, as Congressional Quarterly reported, that “if the roll call of the states is conducted, she might—might—still win.”
So, if we’re so delusional, why obsess with us? because as even you admit
However unlikely these groups’ chances for success are, the spectacle of continued party disunity must be rattling the cages of Democratic leaders. That, particularly as Obama’s short-lived bounce in the polls (following his travels to the Middle East and Europe in which he appeared to have appointed himself president) has dwindled to nothing.
Well boys, allow me to correct you: the “spectacle” was the facade of unity. The way they threw their base away in the primaries the dog and pony show was bound to come apart. bad, bad voters – why let the truth show up?
The announcer says, “Every time you fill your tank, the oil companies fill their pockets. Now, Big Oil’s filling John McCain’s campaign with $2 million in contributions. Because instead of taxing their windfall profits to help drivers, McCain wants to give them another $4 billion in tax breaks. After one president in the pocket of Big Oil, we can’t afford another. Barack Obama — a windfall profits tax on Big Oil to give families a thousand-dollar rebate. A president who’ll stand up for you.”
and McCain has an answer:
“Barack Obama’s latest negative attack ad shows his celebrity is matched only by his hypocrisy, after all it was Sen. Obama, not John McCain, who voted for the Bush-Cheney energy bill that was a sweetheart deal for oil companies. Also not mentioned is the $400,000 from Big Oil contributors that Barack Obama has already pocketed in this election.”
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows the race for the White House is tied with Barack Obama and John McCain each attracting 44% of the vote. However, when “leaners” are included, it’s McCain 47% and Obama 46%.
Cue in Cannonfire’s graphic:
Even in WaPo some truth is making heaways
Campaign manager David Plouffe was pressed hard during a conference call on Thursday for examples and could not point to any. An inquiry to the Obama campaign later in the day produced no immediate response and later no answer to a direct question asking for evidence to buttress Obama’s suggestion that McCain would try to scare people into not voting for Obama because he’s black.
Officials deny that Obama was suggesting that McCain is racist or running on a racially based message. But they believe the McCain campaign has embraced a low-road strategy and, hoping to contrast themselves with previous Democratic nominees, are prepared to respond to every attack.
And to those interpretations of McCain ads the polls say
Only 22% Say McCain Ad Racist, But Over Half (53%) See Obama Dollar-bill Comment That Way
So Bob Herbert, your descent into ridicule didn’t convince – love this reaction:
Dude, close the laptop, grab your jacket, and procede to the nearest bar. You’ve got some serious internal issues. I suggest you start off with four Martini’s and just keep pounding them till all this blows over. Did you pick up on my subliminal message for you in the previous sentence? That’s right, better bring your credit card…
Personally, my first assumption was that Barack Obama was being associated with two of the most untalented, undeserving, empty-headed media morons to ever gain America’s attention. They make Ed McMahon look like Laurence Olivier by comparison. Not until I read Bob Herbert’s piece did I even consider that “Celebrity” was actually invoking Blazing Saddles. “Hey! Where the white women at?”
I had to have this superb rant!
Update – and change of date – aftershocks:
Sen. Barack Obama conceded Saturday morning that allegations he made that Republicans would try to “scare” voters by raising his appearance and name did allude to race, but he said it was rival John McCain’s campaign that transformed general comments about his unusual biography into a “racially incendiary remark.”
his words:
“I don’t think it’s accurate to say my comments have nothing to do with race,” he told reporters here
and McCain
McCain’s campaign released a statement that said “We’re glad the Obama campaign retracted Barack Obama’s accusation because it was absolutely false, and we’re moving on.
Update
as i predicted, pundits are still acting as Bo surrogates executing his talking points:
As a native of the south, I can tell you, when you see this Charlton Heston ad, ‘The One,’ that’s code for, ‘he’s uppity, he ought to stay in his place.’ Everybody gets that who is from a southern background. We all understand that. When McCain comes out and starts talking about affirmative action, ‘I’m against quotas,’ we get what that’s about.”
Gee, i thought the “fairy tale” code was the most absurd, but the bar keeps being pushed. You pundits keep gabbing because us voters get more and more fed up with your secret codes.
But there’s hope! Jennifer Rubin
When the McCain camp called Barack Obama out for playing the race card, I imagine the Obama camp was stunned. But by the end of the day on Thursday it became apparent that Obama’s gambit was failing, and creating far more problems than the Obama team anticipated.Obama’s Bill Burton tried to take back the race card. (But whoops– not in sufficient time to prevent the New York Times from looking foolish. Yes, yes you have to get up very early in the day to do that.) When The New Republic calls Obama’s move a “blunder” and the Hardball panel unanimously calls out Obama, it’s time to fold your hand.
Every time you bring up race you smear millions. You smeared the last Democratic President with this race crap. It was unforgivable. YOU ARE UNFORGIVEN. You played dirty, rotten scumbag politics with the most painful issue in American history. This makes you a dirty, rotten scumbag.Stop whining you whiner.
No, Politico doesn’t call us by name, but “Hillary supporters” is close enough.
Knowing where most of us stand on the issue I’ll start with Marcia Pappas’s take witch matches mine:
Marcia Pappas, who heads the New York state chapter of the National Organization for Women, believes that Clinton supporters “would be outraged to know she was not given that right of first refusal.”
Much as i don’t want to see Hillary a mile from that loser ticket, the right of first refusal is something that she is owed. (and she should refuse, naturally).
other notable comments:
The split isn’t limited to women. “No matter who he picks,” said former New York Gov. Mario Cuomo, “the question is going to be raised: Are you telling me that this person would be a better qualified vice president than Hillary Clinton?”
and if he picks another woman:
“If he picked Claire McCaskill or [Janet] Napolitano [or Kathleen] Sebelius, I think it would annoy women,” Ferraro said.
Ferraro added that “those are women who we spent our lifetime helping run for office” and that “a lot of us are not happy with these women for not supporting Hillary because they came to us for help based in large part on their gender.”
There’s more pidgeonholing
“Those adamant Clinton supporters, the older, and I would say wealthier women, and some of the better known feminists from the dark ages, I think they will use his vice presidential choice, whether a woman or a man, as an excuse not to support him,” said Joan Hoff, an historian at Montana State University and a former president of the Center for the Study of the Presidency.
and finally a bit of concern:
Hoff compared the current dynamic to the Republicans in 1976, when Ronald Reagan’s supporters never fully rallied to Gerald Ford, and the Democrats in 1980, when Edward M. Kennedy’s supporters never fully warmed to Jimmy Carter.
“Ford lost because the neoconservatives sat on their hands and didn’t turn out to vote. The real worry is that [Clinton’s supporters] are going to sit on their hands, the older feminists,” Hoff said. “I’m telling you they’re mad.
But the best news us buried in the middle:
About one in five voters who supported Clinton in the Democratic primaries tell pollsters that they are not voting for Obama, according to a mid-July Quinnipiac University national poll of likely voters — a number that’s only slightly lower than when Clinton dropped out and the conventional wisdom had it that support would coalesce around the presumptive nominee after a brief cooling-off period.
I don’t remember this number ever reported by the CDS Quinnipiac. Knowing them – I an positive that the reality is much, much more. It still makes for 3,600,000 PUMAs according to the most anti-Hillary pollster out there.
No wonder the B0bots gather to pray for us
Pray for HRC and her supporters (Community Service)
From 6/1-9/1 Watching the spectical on Sat. at the rules meeting breaks my heart. We can’t wait for HRC to see the light on her own, we need to begin praying for her and her supporters now. Please commit to praying for them daily to 1) stop trying to hurt the Obama’s and the Democratic party. 2) Pray God will speak to them all and change their hearts so their only pursuit will be party unity and whole heartedly backing Sen. Obama.
Oh, and one more thing, Politico&pundits: babies behinds chafe. Some dishes too, I am told. B0bots pray. PUMAs take action.
